Would you like an in-game parser?

[Caitlinzulu]

. I would much rather get clears for, say, V1S-V3S in 30 minutes than spending 2 hours on them. Same thing with Exdeath—I’d rather kill him in 2-3 pulls instead of spending half of V4S’ lockout on him before even seeing Neo. Sorry, but I'm not sorry about that.

But you do know no level of training or improving yourself will cut the time you need in 4. at most it would be like 40 minutes instead of 30. Thats all on the condition that you dont wipe off course and that nobody is underperforming so much that they cause wipes. If you dont hit enrage due to low dps its usually someone failing mechanics which causes their damage to drop due to dieing. you dont need a parser to spot that.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

But you do know no level of training or improving yourself will cut the time you need in 4. at most it would be like 40 minutes instead of 30. Thats all on the condition that you dont wipe off course and that nobody is underperforming so much that they cause wipes. If you dont hit enrage due to low dps its usually someone failing mechanics which causes their damage to drop due to dieing. you dont need a parser to spot that.

And? If each fight shaved off ten minutes, I'll have almost an hour extra to do something else. Why should I spend longer because you or whomever cannot be bothered with more than "we cleared"?

[Caitlinzulu]

And? If each fight shaved off ten minutes, I'll have almost an hour extra to do something else. Why should I spend longer because you or whomever cannot be bothered with more than "we cleared"?

Well good luck shaving 10 minutes off a omega savage clear rofl. Its more like you shave off a minute or 2-3 at the very most on those. 10

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Well good luck shaving 10 minutes off a omega savage clear rofl. Its more like you shave off a minute or 2-3 at the very most on those. 10

Don't move the goal posts. Be it 10 minutes or 40, why should I waste more of my time because you simply can't be bothered to do more than the bare minimum? In a learning party, that's one thing but in a clear, I expect everyone to pull their own weight not have me carry them through.

[HyoMinPark]

But you do know no level of training or improving yourself will cut the time you need in 4. at most it would be like 40 minutes instead of 30. Thats all on the condition that you dont wipe off course and that nobody is underperforming so much that they cause wipes. If you dont hit enrage due to low dps its usually someone failing mechanics which causes their damage to drop due to dieing. you dont need a parser to spot that.

You can either kill Exdeath in 2-3 pulls (roughly 15 minutes combined if your group is right on the brink of enrage), or you can wipe to him 10-15 times (each one taking anywhere from 2 mins to the enrage timer) and waste half a lockout before you even see Neo. I wonder which one people would rather have. V4S is, in total, a ~20 minute fight, including Neo’s weird birthlike scene and resetting for him. Exdeath has an enrage of 4:50, and Neo 12:45. Why spend 30 or 40 minutes in a fight that can be done in less? It’s one thing if it’s a first clear. But for people who have multiple clears to be “okay” with wiping because “well, we cleared”—I will never understand this mindset.

You can kill Alte Rolte or Catastrophe in 6~7 minutes (sometimes even less if your group is super good, but average is 7-ish minutes), or 9~10 minutes (enrage is 9:40 for V1S, and 10:30 for V2S, if I remember correctly). Which is preferable? I think people would prefer the faster clears so they can spend more time either progging on later floors, or, I don’t know, doing other productive things? I raid twice a week for 3 hours; I also go to school full-time and have other things I need to be doing like homework or studying. Those minutes add up over time. I want as much time as possible in Neo with my group trying to help them clear, as opposed to spending an hour in V3S wiping. I’m sure others feel the same.