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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    @RobbieH

    Well, I do understand 'circumstances' which is why I don't kick and wait until it is necessary.
    For example, we will wait at boss before pull (waiting for 1 party member) in the end we decide to give it a try or two. If we kept failing then that party member gets replaced. It is auto kick from the system that kicks the player mostly not vote kick (if player went AFK).
    As for offline/DC we do wait 10 minutes which is equal to the system auto kicking. So I don't call that being unfair or harmful because we did wait. We've done our part. Our time will be wasted if we decide to wait any longer which in this case is not fair for us (the remaining party).

    When I said majority I meant majority of players in game not forums (Sorry for that).

    As for trials and raid, vote kick a player .. is not common.
    It mostly goes something like this:
    Many deaths > wipe > try again > wipe > Vote abandon.
    Many deaths > wipe > try again > wipe > players start leaving.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 11-16-2016 at 04:52 AM.

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    RobbieH's Avatar
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    Agin Wildfang
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    I'm out. All you're doing is nitpicking, istead of seeing the message. Parsers are helpful. I would like one so i can see my numbers. Clearly that upsets you. Oh well. Good luck.
    Once again you either don't understand English very well, i'm not explaining myself well enough, or Manderville must be trolling us.

    You ask for a parser so you can see your DPS, that is not enough, you can't improve your DPS just by looking at the numbers, you can simply get lucky with crits and do more DPS with a worse opener for example, if you said you wanted a parser with advanced stats, THEN it makes sense.

    Even more on the get lucky with crits, without advanced stats you can have lets say, 30% Crit in two parses, but in one parse you do 50 more DPS, without advanced stats you can't possibly know if it was a rotation issue, or if you got the crits in actual high potency skills instead or auto attacks, because there's a difference on where you crit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    I'm honestly confused by your stance on parsers... You use them, you even post them publicly, so obviously you see value in them. Why do you think limiting them to "don't ask, don't tell" is better? Don't you think that others in the community could get value from the availability of parsers?
    The only reason i don't want people to "don't ask, don't tell" is that they can get banned, there's a reason why they haven't added a parser officially, they could have done it long ago if they wanted.

    As for not wanting a parser this isn't entirely true, i've explained myself on why i think it won't make bad players much better which was one of the reasons people have been giving that it would make players better, also read my reply above on why i disagree with "a parser so i can see my DPS".

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    @RobbieH

    Well, I do understand 'circumstances' which is why I don't kick and wait until it is necessary.
    For example, we will wait at boss before pull (waiting for 1 party member) in the end we decide to give it a try or two. If we kept failing then that party member gets replaced. It is auto kick from the system that kicks the player mostly not vote kick (if player went AFK).
    As for offline/DC we do wait 10 minutes which is equal to the system auto kicking. So I don't call that being unfair or harmful because we did wait. We've done our part. Our time will be wasted if we decide to wait any longer which in this case is not fair for us (the remaining party).

    When I said majority I meant majority of players in game not forums (Sorry for that).

    As for trials and raid, vote kick a player .. is not common.
    It mostly goes something like this:
    Many deaths > wipe > try again > wipe > Vote abandon.
    Many deaths > wipe > try again > wipe > players start leaving.
    I'm glad there's people like you in the game, but not everyone is like you, that's the issue.

    Anyway if you want a more detailed reply please give some time because it's been almost 7 hours since i've eaten, need to go do dinner ^^'
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    Last edited by RobbieH; 11-16-2016 at 05:06 AM.