Quote Originally Posted by FabricioRF View Post
Are antiparsers afraid of people being able to see their low numbers or what?
Why bother post this when you're a low parser yourself?

Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
Yes, i too am guilty of using pots and food to "cheese" my numbers. I'm also one of those guys that likes to use my skills in the right order to "cheese" my numbers as well. Clearly i need to stop my epeeen leetness.
Good job for being the only person in the game who "uses skills in the right order", are you going to teach me playing Ninja, please?

People use pots to cheese their DPS yes, for a simple reason, so they get better numbers on a certain website, are pots needed for A9S, A10S and 11S? No they aren't, if people use them is either:

- To have higher numbers
- Because they don't meet the DPS checks needed

People even use Pots om bosses in 24 Man Raids so they can be at the Top.

Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
(Edit ) and I'm not asking for parser so I can grief 13 year olds. I'm wanting a parser so i can track my own dps
Maybe you won't, but many will, people already do it without a parser so with one would be far worse.

Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
(Edit 2) i also don't need a parser to see if a blm sucks or a bard sucks or a drg sucks or a smn sucks. I can actually see if they are doing their job somewhere close to decent.
Then why do you need a parser? It's like everytime you post, you kill your own argument, i just don't get it.

Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
I too can make a snarky edit!

-Cheesing with pots/food? Erm... in Savage that can be a HUGE benefit and... kind of the point of them. Should I remove my melds as they inflate my stats?
No but people like to bring their epeen when they do more DPS when they don't take into account the Stats on whoever is doing less than they should, are you going to deny this? Then you're going to kill your own argument.

Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
-You know why people can beat A12S without beating the dummy? Crits, people DPSing slightly higher to compensate etc.
More or less yes, Crits and LB, LB is used to compensate low and/or DPS losses.

That's why the actual numbers in Savage are lower for the most part compared to the Dummy.

Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
If someone is going to attempt EX/Savage, I don't care if they're 13 or 50. They need to push the DPS needed. If they can't, then the content isn't for them.
Here's what's wrong with this community, you people expect others to perform well, if they don't they get booted, why not help them perform better?

That's why most JP community is successful, because they help each other.

Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
Also, parsers are technically allowed. It is when they're used to harass when someone gets in trouble for... well, harassment. And I think you said it best, so I'd heed your words:
Are they now? Post a link to them in the forums and you'll see if they're allowed.

And come on, people harass each other even without parsers, even there's someone saying that when WoW got parsers it became super toxic, why would it be different here?

Look at this thread, people talking about parsers and running with pitch forks against those who are against it.

I'm not entirely against and in-game parser, i've explained multiple times, per page, what's the problem of adding one, and people in this forum like to skip arguments when they have nothing to counter those arguments, but that's ok, i'm not expecting people to bother considering what they post.

Going to repeat for the last time:

- Parsers won't make a player become much better (to the point people expect them to perform in End-game raiding) on their own, they will still need someone's else help
- Written and Video Guides are much better and faster way to learn
- People with low DPS will get kicked and Vote Kick will be abused more than ever
- There's Mentor System, no one uses it at all, and those who do is for the mount

If the things mentioned above weren't an issue, then i'd be fine with the parser, the problem is that it's in people nature to shit on others even if they're only doing better by 1%.