Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
I strongly disagree with this statement. Plenty of people have no idea that they are doing as poorly as they are. I can't count how many times I've finished expert and had the other DPS exclaim, "that was the fastest run ever!" despite it being one of my slower runs. These players could see that their DPS is below average, below the tanks, below the healers, and they could do something about it. Will everyone? no. Will some? yes. It's also very useful for teamwork and buffs - most notably AST and Balance. I know that if I mained AST, I'd want my buffs to be used to the optimum, and that means placing balance on the top DPS and not just a random DPS.
It's interesting. In this discussion there is more agreement than disagreement - which seems to be the case most often. The above is the reason why I have no problem with the possibility of a personal parser that remains private. I can see an argument for those being training aids, and you could work with friends and compare results while learning/training on a job.

I understand your point that many who are not pulling their weight at all might be oblivious to that. But you and I both know that we do not need a parser to see when another player is playing severely below normal ability. The question is whether having numbers to back up that judgement helps the situation. I don't think it does because your judgement is the same, you would just have numbers for 'proof' if required. But depending on your approach and the sensitivity of the other player your message can be welcomed or ignored, or even treated as provocation. Having the numbers wouldn't change that.

I think we agree on many of the individual issues, but perhaps on this one specific point we still disagree? Either way, let me ask you, if there was a personal parser built into the game as a training aid, but the numbers were private unless you share them in chat or something, would that not help in the way that most people argue a parser will help?