Would you like an in-game parser?

[JunseiKei]

Being able to complete the duty means what? Back in the day, parties wiped many, many times to Titan HM. Is one wipe enough to mean that a player cannot complete the duty? Are two wipes enough? Where do you draw the line?

If we are talking about things in the MSQ, or light party content, or normal/hard mode (not raid or alliance) content, then I think that such judgements have no purpose. Because in general, parties are capable of clearing such content with ease, even with sub par performance. Titan HM being an obvious exception to that (at the time), and if you remember it was quite contentious at the time too...

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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait. I wanna interject here:

:P A lot of those things didn't even have enrages. Titan will go on forever until the timer runs out (I think? I've not actually tried it). This is, assuming, you just took care off adds (gaols) and just did mechanics, I'm pretty sure the fight will just keep going on. You didn't need DPS for those; they were mechanic checkers. A parse didn't really mean much in those kinds of fights when simply living meant you'd eventually down the thing. At that point, gauging your DPS meant you had the fight down to a science and were looking to maximize now.

[Kosmos992k]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait. I wanna interject here:

:P A lot of those things didn't even have enrages. Titan will go on forever until the timer runs out (I think? I've not actually tried it). This is, assuming, you just took care off adds (gaols) and just did mechanics, I'm pretty sure the fight will just keep going on. You didn't need DPS for those; they were mechanic checkers. A parse didn't really mean much in those kinds of fights when simply living meant you'd eventually down the thing.

Not so much anymore.

Titan's heart phase was an insta wipe if failed. Tumult did a craptastic amount of damage if not mitigated, landslide was permadeath, and losing a healer to that was an immediate wipe. You could in theory make the final phase run as long as the instance clock allows assuming that everyone can dodge all the bombs and mitigate the tumults and avoid the landslides, etc... Of course Titan has been 'eased' many times, since then. But yeah, the heart phase was a pretty hard 'enrage'.

What always ticked me off was groups who would not use LB to finish the heart in time and would then wipe. In the final phase if at least one healer and tank stayed alive, the instance could be finished, so long as the remaining players (even if it was just the healer and tank) could dodge everything, mitigate everything and chip away at Titan. but saving the LB for the final phase at the expense of a wipe to the heart was just plain annoying.

[JunseiKei]

Titan's heart phase was an insta wipe if failed. Tumult did a craptastic amount of damage if not mitigated, landslide was permadeath, and losing a healer to that was an immediate wipe. You could in theory make the final phase run as long as the instance clock allows assuming that everyone can dodge all the bombs and mitigate the tumults and avoid the landslides, etc... Of course Titan has been 'eased' many times, since then. But yeah, the heart phase was a pretty hard 'enrage'.

Hence why I said adds and stuff; heart phase could be considered an add for intents and purposes. If you took care of the instant wipe mechanics and just moved, halting all DPS, the fight would go on until the timer ran out. Not like later primal fights where you have this many of the primal's rotation or this much time until it hard enrages and we all die~ ♥

EDIT:

Titan HM has a soft enrage, not a hard, last I checked. If you don't down him in a certain time, then he'll start doing more and more tumults up until you kill him or wipe. I remember one time way back in early 2.x being the only dps alive from the heart phase on as a mnk with a pld and a whm. When we finally wiped, Titan was doing 12 tumults(stomps).

Ah, good to know. Something that would have killed when it was relevant, but something you can easily power through nowadays.

[Kosmos992k]

Hence why I said adds and stuff; heart phase could be considered an add for intents and purposes.

I'm not sure why you are arguing this. The heart phase is the very definition of a hard enrage.

If you took care of the instant wipe mechanics and just moved, halting all DPS, the fight would go on until the timer ran out. Not like later primal fights where you have this many of the primal's rotation or this much time until it hard enrages and we all die~ ♥

Except for that hard enrage in the heart phase. The heart phase is hardly an add since Titan himself does nothing during it, you're just trying to meet a DPS check before the enrage.

Ah, good to know. Something that would have killed when it was relevant, but something you can easily power through nowadays.

Titan's Tumult was not unlimited, IIRC it ceased increasing at either 7 or 8 stomps. However a tank could stun Titan at the 4th stomp mitigating all the others entirely. this was not a soft enrage, it was just a pain in the ass because most tanks didn't know they could do that. If you were really good on your timing, you could time your stun to interrupt tumult after the 3rd stomp, mitigating all the others. Most people stopped them after 4. That's something like 2400-3200 (or more) HP per player mitigated by one move. Tumult was never a soft enrage. I believe that in the current Titan HM, Tumult never goes more than 4 stomps making it very easy to heal through.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Titan HM has a soft enrage, not a hard, last I checked. If you don't down him in a certain time, then he'll start doing more and more tumults up until you kill him or wipe. I remember one time way back in early 2.x being the only dps alive from the heart phase on as a mnk with a pld and a whm. When we finally wiped, Titan was doing 12 tumults(stomps).