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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Since that team is random, you cannot have any reasonable expectation other than warm bodies holding controllers. That is the point of DF, it's for everyone, whether they are good, bad or indifferent, whether they play like pro-bros or newbies. It's everyone and DF exists explicitly for that purpose.
    Random means you can get anyone, but if you're going to queue for something that's team-based you, as a person, should realize that you're going to need to participate in that team. DF is what you make it, and NA has decided to make it a clusterf**k by having this mentality of "it's okay to be bad because it's DF". It doesn't need to be this way.

    You do realize that Party Finder is for what you want, and Duty Finder was created so that players without a group could at least find warm bodies to fill the roster right?
    DF was around before PF existed. DF was to put together a party using people from across the Data Center who wanted to participate in that content. It's important, imo, to think about how DF ended up the way it has as you can look at JP's DF and see a completely different result.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieH View Post
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    I'm not replying to this because it's just going to keep going back and forth. Let's just agree to disagree.
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Random means you can get anyone, but if you're going to queue for something that's team-based you, as a person, should realize that you're going to need to participate in that team. **snip**
    DF was around before PF existed. DF was to put together a party using people from across the Data Center who wanted to participate in that content. It's important, imo, to think about how DF ended up the way it has as you can look at JP's DF and see a completely different result.
    My reply was eaten by a keypress. So here is a summary.

    Teams exist to help each other.
    DF exists to help players without a group to find one.
    Leveling roulette and adventurer in need bonus exist within DF because DF is there for all players including those learning and those who are new. That is what DF is primarily for.
    DF is NOT a recruitment lobby for expert end-gamers to fulfill your fantasy of a pro-bro party to run Sastasha.
    PF was added to allow people to assemble their own team because the randomness of DF created unbalanced teams (unbalanced in terms of ability and expertise). People requested it to alleviate that issue.

    So, in short, you are wrong about Duty Finder, and Party Finder/Raid Finder is what you are looking for.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 11-15-2016 at 03:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    I'm not replying to this because it's just going to keep going back and forth. Let's just agree to disagree.
    You're not going to reply because you know it's true whether you like it or not.

    Either way if people want a parser they already have one, if PS4 players want to parse ask friends on PC with it to do it for them.

    "But but a parser is against TOS", must be why they already banned all the people who are on a certain website, especially World First teams who use Parsers and triggers.

    There would be like 5% of the Raid community left if they banned people who use parsers.

    The parser wasn't added in-game for a simple reason: toxicity towards bad players.

    This would give a bad image of the community, if you check reddit there's multiple stories of toxic behaviour, do you think it's good for the game to have a community considered as toxic? This isn't League of Legends.

    If they wanted a parser in the game, they would have added it LONG ago, the numbers are already there, they're just not being shown to players.
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    oops wrong thread~

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieH View Post
    You're not going to reply because you know it's true whether you like it or not.

    Either way if people want a parser they already have one, if PS4 players want to parse ask friends on PC with it to do it for them.

    "But but a parser is against TOS", must be why they already banned all the people who are on a certain website, especially World First teams who use Parsers and triggers.

    There would be like 5% of the Raid community left if they banned people who use parsers.

    The parser wasn't added in-game for a simple reason: toxicity towards bad players.
    Parsers are FFXIV's worst kept secret. I have known people who did mention parsers in game and did get suspended for it. It's become a don't mention it in game, you're a-okay. However, careful what you say around people you don't know; someone can report you for it and you may end up coming face to face with a GM.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Parsers are FFXIV's worst kept secret. I have known people who did mention parsers in game and did get suspended for it. It's become a don't mention it in game, you're a-okay. However, careful what you say around people you don't know; someone can report you for it and you may end up coming face to face with a GM.
    I never mentioned parses in game so i'm good.

    I think a bad thing is that people who clear Savage upload videos to Youtube with the parser on (including world first teams), those are actually showing it to everyone.
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