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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    White Mage Lv 90
    There's a reason parsers are considered against ToS now when at the beginning, they weren't. Too many were being removed from parties and excluded from content because they weren't meeting arbitrary numbers players were imposing on others. "You're not pulling 500 DPS minimum, get out." Even if the player was doing mechanics correctly or their gear wasn't quite up to snuff (because back in Coil days, RNG drops were far more of a thing than they are now with Alex's page drops and primals dropping tokens too), so they only did 498 DPS.

    The thing is, it still happens- people being removed for poor DPS. They just have to be careful about what they say, if anything, as to why people are removed from a group. My only concern is, if public mentioning of parsing were allowed again, if people don't meet certain numbers, will the rampant removal happen again? If it will, it's best to leave parsers as a 'use at your own risk' tool.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
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    I've been kicked for poor play. Maybe I'm special, but rather than think "That's not fair", I took it and worked on improving. It's a motivation, and it makes people improve. If you don't want to improve and play well, play a single player game. Skyrim doesn't care about your poor play, but teammates are counting on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    I've been kicked for poor play. Maybe I'm special, but rather than think "That's not fair", I took it and worked on improving. It's a motivation, and it makes people improve. If you don't want to improve and play well, play a single player game. Skyrim doesn't care about your poor play, but teammates are counting on you.
    Actually, my point had been if someone is doing everything they can to play at their best, but gear or simply getting all the mechanics limits your DPS and then you're further pressured to meet a certain number requirement that can be as silly as getting a lucky critical or not means getting excluded from content, that is a flaw. Especially when you pair this information with people that don't exactly understand class capability or group composition. They just see people who have high numbers on a website and say "you need to be here" without looking at the log and seeing why they are there.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.