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    SeriouslySalty's Avatar
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    Seriously Salty
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
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    A parser is not difficult to understand. While I sometimes agree that "numbers do not always reflect the reality if they are not put into context", that is rarely ever the case. With an official parser that will never be the case.

    You are too fixated with the consequences of an official parser. I've mentioned it in previous posts how it can be helpful; I will put it in list format so you understand better.

    PROS:
    1. Will help with players improving themselves
    2. Will help with mentors improving sprouts
    3. Lazy players will have incentive to play better or get kicked
    4. Overall skill of the game's player base rises as a result of points 1-3

    CONS:
    1. People will get bullied sometimes

    In the cases where someone uses the numbers to justify putting another player down, that player can use the mute feature. I do NOT want a parser to criticize people. I want it to be used as a tool by the community to improve the base skill of this game.
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySalty View Post
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    It doesnt need to be public you can take your figures and ask your friends if they are ok. That would be acceptable. Is already the case today that people berate other for what they see on their parsers as wrong
    . Also people will not help they will just get rid of the player that has figures low so that they can finish their run. The person kicked will still have no clues why. This happening is so predictable... no parsers ever other then personal. No matter what you say i still am of the opinion that you want a mean to pass a judgement not a mean for betterment this based on the *some will be bullied* you still support this even you try to say is not the case. Nothing justifies this not in a game not anywhere and giving a tool that will allow this is wrong. The good willnot outcome the bad in this. I mean is not like we dont have examples already on how people interact with ithers when they have power right? You want one more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    Also people will not help they will just get rid of the player that has figures low so that they can finish their run
    How can you be so sure? Even today there are people willing to help in dungeons. Maybe I'm just lucky but I rarely see people verbally abused in DF.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    No matter what you say i still am of the opinion that you want a mean to pass a judgement not a mean for betterment this based on the *some will be bullied* you still support this even you try to say is not the case.
    Well then I believe the conversation between you and I is over. Even though that is not my intention at all, and I've made that clear several times, nothing I say can possibly change what you think my intentions are. You simply keep bringing up the fact that it will be abused. I will not be responding to any more of your posts, but thank you for opening my eyes on how needlessly sensitive this community can be.
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    M'telihgo Feilyon
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    It doesnt need to be public you can take your figures and ask your friends if they are ok. That would be acceptable. Is already the case today that people berate other for what they see on their parsers as wrong
    . Also people will not help they will just get rid of the player that has figures low so that they can finish their run. The person kicked will still have no clues why. This happening is so predictable... no parsers ever other then personal. No matter what you say i still am of the opinion that you want a mean to pass a judgement not a mean for betterment this based on the *some will be bullied* you still support this even you try to say is not the case. Nothing justifies this not in a game not anywhere and giving a tool that will allow this is wrong. The good willnot outcome the bad in this. I mean is not like we dont have examples already on how people interact with ithers when they have power right? You want one more?
    Seriously???

    If I follow you correctly, if a good MNK does 2,000 DPS, and I get one at 1,500 I'm going to kick them for low DPS so I can finish my run?

    Seriously???

    I have played with enough ice mages and other people that do not follow rotations, do not buff or debuff, or do much of anything and I haven't kicked them. I tried to help a few, the responses have been from "It's my $15, I'll play as I want!!", to "F you elitist!" or other grief. That is why many people don't bothe to try and help with what they see, even without a parser.

    You know, a BLM using Fire I > Flare > waits for Astral Fire to drop and start Regen, Blizzard I > repeat. It is painfully obvious that they don't know what they are doing.

    I do think that SE needs to let people who were kicked know why they were voted out.
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    Last edited by Istaru; 07-30-2016 at 02:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    Seriously???
    /shrug i had these people do and so what? the world burned down? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    /shrug i had these people do and so what? the world burned down? :P
    Nope.

    Just to say I don't kick people for bad DPS with or without a parser and that there are reasons why I don't try a help people be better like I used to.
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