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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I was referring to those who think that healer DPS (in the case of the post, specifically SCH) is bad. In current dungeons, tanks do not take much damage, and healing 90% of the time can be handled with selene, lustrate, and a few adlos every now and then, which gives healers a lot of breathing room to DPS, and if they aren't then they are either being lazy, or severely overhealing (or both), and the posts seem to suggest that doing so is how it should be, hence the ignorance comment.
    First, thanks for the clarification. I didn't really see any of their comments saying healers DPSing being bad. I saw it as them arguing that Healer DPS shouldn't be their first priority; that a healer in dungeons shouldn't have to have accuracy gear and materia. Personally, I would like to even argue with you slightly in that: A healer that makes sure no one dies is an "OK" healer- they're doing the bare minimum their job requires. A healer that makes sure no one dies and contributes with DPS when available or comfortable is a "good" healer- they're doing what their role requires and then some. Your "good" healer scenario with a healer that plays at 100% all the time would then be an "excellent" healer- they're playing their class to the fullest.

    Now, disclaimer incoming, I am certainly not going to claim that I am an excellent healer by your standards. But for the sake of argument, let's pretend that in raiding situations, I am and that I find that stressful. Is it going to harm anyone if I relax a bit and go down to "good" status for content that doesn't require me to play at peak performance? Am I a bad healer for not using Presence of Mind to spam holy, for example? Or for not using Fluid Aura because I know it's going to kick the mob not only out of range of holy, but my black mage's flares/fire2 and my summoner's Shadow Flare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Now, disclaimer incoming, I am certainly not going to claim that I am an excellent healer by your standards. But for the sake of argument, let's pretend that in raiding situations, I am and that I find that stressful. Is it going to harm anyone if I relax a bit and go down to "good" status for content that doesn't require me to play at peak performance? Am I a bad healer for not using Presence of Mind to spam holy, for example? Or for not using Fluid Aura because I know it's going to kick the mob not only out of range of holy, but my black mage's flares/fire2 and my summoner's Shadow Flare?
    (Disclaimer: I'm not a raid healer, so this is all second hand info, I also play SCH, and not the other healers, so I recognise that they have more intensive MP management, which can restrict DPS)

    In all honesty, raid healing is a different beast to dungeon healing as a whole. You tend to have a dedicated healer who spends 100% of the time (except the odd enrage push) healing, and you have the off-healer who's job is to DPS when they can and contribute to healing when they are needed (duel tank mechanics and heavy damage output). When in a dungeon scenario, I would label the healer in the offhealer camp, healing when needed and spending the rest of the time DPSing, which isn't to say that they are a DPS, rather saying that the button that is pressed on any given GCD should be the one that will benefit the party most.

    This is all off topic anyway, so I will segway back by saying that healers do not need parsers, and the devs are trying to discourage the requirement of healer DPS with accuracy limitations, but what this means is that the job falls back on DPS to pick up the slack. No role should be complacent in their job, it just so happens that a complacent DPS doesn't directly cause wipes, and that is why they seem to get a free pass, which isn't how it should be in my eyes.

    Edit: regarding your comment about "relaxing in a stressful situation". The answer to that is that you hit the best button for the situation, if you have to heal then heal, if you have room to DPS then do so. All of your buttons are there for a reason and should be recognised as such. Now obviously you don't have to use them all (fluid aura being extreamly situational for example), but at least recognising where you would use each skill is recommended (if not essential) for hardcore content.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 06-02-2016 at 01:36 AM.