Would you like an in-game parser?

[Seraphix2407]

No,

Enochian is 56. Bliz 4, 58. Thats 2 levels where you learn to use Enochian and Maintain. You have 4 levels to learn how to use Enochian. 4levels you know the skill exist, you dont ignore it. Ofc people learn shower than others, keep in mind thats why we having levling dungeons so people can learn in there and not outside, besides the lvl 60 skill. I refuse to go BLM in roulettes because I dont know how to play it.

[Reiryuu]

I refuse to go BLM in roulettes because I dont know how to play it.

But see, that's part of our point. Shouldn't you be able to go into something like a roulette on a job you aren't 100% confident with to get more comfortable on it in group situations? Shouldn't casual content like dungeons be more relaxed so you don't have to worry about playing 100% all the time?

[Seraphix2407]

You are playing with 3 others. Why is it all me me me me. Sounds more selfish than anything.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

You are playing with 3 others. Why is it all me me me me. Sounds more selfish than anything.

Ironically, you can pretty much say that about both sides in this debate and it'd be equally fitting.

[Seraphix2407]

So I have to adjust to people who have no clue on their class? Fine by me i wont use cooldowns then. And also i dont expect 100%in roulettes i expect knowledge of the class you enter with. Btw you do things in levling dungeons too, thats why you get your skill while levling so you learn how to use them.

[Launched]

But see, that's part of our point. Shouldn't you be able to go into something like a roulette on a job you aren't 100% confident with to get more comfortable on it in group situations? Shouldn't casual content like dungeons be more relaxed so you don't have to worry about playing 100% all the time?

You should be comfortable enough to be able to go in and never drop your buffs like Enochian or Blood of the Dragon (while still using Fire IV/Geirskogul) unless there are mechanics that force it. If you can't do that, you should spend an hour or two on a dummy.

[Reiryuu]

You should be comfortable enough to be able to go in and never drop your buffs like Enochian or Blood of the Dragon (while still using Fire IV/Geirskogul) unless there are mechanics that force it. If you can't do that, you should spend an hour or two on a dummy.

How is a dummy going to remind you about those though? How is a dummy going to teach you to use or maintain anything while you're running around fighting groups of mobs? For that matter, how is a parser going to remind you about those too because that is the topic of discussion here, right?
Seriously, are you going to wipe the party for forgetting about them? Should you be using them, yes. Do people need to get bent out of shape if you don't/forget? No. I mean, "Hey, you know, Enochian gives you a 5% boost to your magic damage. You should try keeping it up more." is far better than saying "Yo bot, why aren't you using Enochian?"

I mean I go in dungeons on Astro occasionally and one of the things I always seem to need to remember is which skill is my Esuna equivalent and where I put it on my hot bars. It doesn't help that many astro skills look alike to me too with like little swirly things and balls of different colors lol. But if I didn't have a need to use Esuna (or whatever the Astro equivalent is called) I probably wouldn't have looked for it either.

[Seraphix2407]

People have botted before and people plays like bots, thats the Sad part. Also like you said dummy does Jack shit when you are in an actuall fight. But keeping up your buff can be taught on a dummy, you Just adjust in the fight if anything. Its not about wiping a group Coz one person dont use their skill. Just use the skill you get while you lvl up. Simple.

[Reiryuu]

Its not about wiping a group Coz one person dont use their skill.

But that seems to always be the default argument. Someone points a finger at someone for not doing something and to prove their point they say "don't blame me if we wipe" right?

[Launched]

How is a dummy going to remind you about those though? How is a dummy going to teach you to use or maintain anything while you're running around fighting groups of mobs?

How's it not going to help? If you can't keep BotD up until you run out of TP, or Enochian for 5 minutes on a dummy, you don't know your job well enough. Boss fights in dungeons are easy enough that apart from mechanics like frogs/dolls in Antitower, you shouldn't be away from the boss long enough to drop a buff. You learn your job on a dummy, then when you're learning actual fights you be careful with the timers (use Blizzard IV to reapply Enochian at 10s so you don't have to worry about mechanics, use Geirskogul when the BotD timer is closer to 30s than the 21s minimum). You don't just "forget" to use the buffs that are a huge part of the job at 60.

I mean I go in dungeons on Astro occasionally and one of the things I always seem to need to remember is which skill is my Esuna equivalent and where I put it on my hot bars.

But you apparently have all 3 healers at 60. Why don't the 3 Esuna skills all share the same hotkey? Same for other similar skills like Cure/Physick/Benific. I can't say I have any trouble remembering my hotkeys, and I have every job at 60 because I keep them consistent between jobs. My melee combos share the same skills. My caster DoTs do too. Buffs/debuffs are on the same keys on each job, and so are similar skills like Shroud of Saints and Luminiferous Aether.