Would you like an in-game parser?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

No matter how much you want to pretend a parser is a magical cure all, it's at best a distraction, and at worst, downright useless because the person with it either doesn't know how to get better or doesn't want to get better.

[Reisui]

Actually, if the tool is on their screen, they're not that much in denial. But here the tool is on your screen, not theirs.

With a Group parser it's on everyone's screen, it's up to the people to use it correctly

A guide gives you knowledge of the path, practice is walking the path. A parser only tells you that the path you're on is wrong.

The parser actually will be used in the practice too. With the parser you could fine-tune your rotations, and try out different strategies that might work better for certain encounters.

[Seraphix2407]

A guide gives you knowledge of the path, practice is walking the path. A parser only tells you that the path you're on is wrong.

It's fine to clear it with 1 guy being lower dps, but if he atleast tried his very best, maybe those wipes in his other groups wouldn't happen as much as I tell you they are. You see eventually farm groups will get enrage because they happens to be in a group with same type of players, if those guys weren't doing as low as they are doing, it would mostlikely happen they won't get enrage, hell even be a smaller chance of wipes in groups in general. Everything would flow smoother.

You talk about roulette, first of all since you mention that, ravana is one of the fights I still wipe to endlessly. Keep in mind I'm quing up things to beat the content not to wipe in them. Or you gonna change the words you said earlier, about adressing me talking about the 66 enrage wipe in midas 4 normal? Last time I checked you said you don't talk about people who has sooo low dps but about those who barely has any dps loss, talk about 50-100 less they could done for example. I have news for ya, many people in trial do 60-70% less than they could do which leads to wipe. Why do people do things and wipe 7 other people on purpose? That's like trolling and you and I both know it is.

No matter how much you want to pretend a parser is a magical cure all, it's at best a distraction, and at worst, downright useless because the person with it either doesn't know how to get better or doesn't want to get better.

You are the last person I'm willing to take 100% serious. I never said its magical or make people better by just clicking it. It's a tool to help you get better.
You are the one pretending here, talking about 1250 people getting kicked, so no I will say it again, hard to take you serious.

[Reisui]

No matter how much you want to pretend a parser is a magical cure all, it's at best a distraction, and at worst, downright useless because the person with it either doesn't know how to get better or doesn't want to get better.

We never pretend a parser is a magical cure. It will only help those that want to be helped and want to improve.
If a person decides he doesn't care, he shouldn't enter group-based content. It's group, not I.

[Seraphix2407]

We never pretend a parser is a magical cure. It will only help those that want to be helped and want to improve.
If a person decides he doesn't care, he shouldn't enter group-based content. It's group, not I.

Excactly. Sadly, people don't get it and I'm pretty sure I never said its something magical that's gonna make people greater, it's a tool to help people improve only if they wish for. If they don't want to improve, don't join a groups. If you do you are only there to pull a group down, which is in my concern some form of trolling. No thanks.

[Reiryuu]

You are the last person I'm willing to take 100% serious. I never said its magical or make people better by just clicking it. It's a tool to help you get better.
You are the one pretending here, talking about 1450 people getting kicked, so no I will say it again, hard to take you serious.

I think you add 100 to that every time you mention it. The original number was 1250. But, for all we know, you could be making up numbers for your 66 Midas 4 Normal wipes for example. Did you count and keep record of all 66? Maybe you did. But if you didn't your examples aren't any more trustworthy. Just something to think about.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

We never pretend a parser is a magical cure. It will only help those that want to be helped and want to improve.
If a person decides he doesn't care, he shouldn't enter group-based content. It's group, not I.

That's precisely pretending it's a magical cure all, by implying it's impossible to get better without usage of a parser. It's perfectly and totally possible to get better and maximize your deeps without a parser, a parser just simplifies the process while providing another distraction to watch during content.

[Seraphix2407]

Just something to think about.

Ops 1250, you are right. Thanks for correcting me. I didn't make up the 66% enrage, that's the difference here . Ive had many enrage wipes in m4 but all of them at 66%? Nope, sometimes around in the 30's 10's 20's etc. You know, I will actually start screenshotting them all and each time they happen I will post them in here. So you know I don't BS around it. Thanks for the reminder. I'm not even sarcastic at all, people just seem to ignore the problem. Then making up things to just try make it worse, when it's far from the truth. Do you want to take a bet I can run 10 dungeons and do slightly lower than I can do and not get called out vs the people who do less than 50% they want to do? I'm more than happy to provide you with that. I know I'm posting aggresive now, but then again, people just make up things and then say things we never said it's fully retarded.

That's precisely pretending it's a magical cure all, by implying it's impossible to get better without usage of a parser. It's perfectly and totally possible to get better and maximize your deeps without a parser, a parser just simplifies the process while providing another distraction to watch during content.

You can but a parser is a tool that overwrite the current method to get better in game. Like some in this thread said, look through battle log etc. If there are 2 ways to get better, why would you choose the way that would help you less than the other? How excactly do you know if you do better in battle content? I'm saying battle content not SSS.

[MeiUshu]

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so far though the majority of pro parsers seems to be wanting one in order for them to judge people, categorize and ostracize if needs be and not better the players as well as find a justification on why they failed or were so slow that they miss their favourite TV movie (yep heard this too..so no is not invented). In this game, the result is what matters, if you beat the boss you need to know nothing else, if you need to make sure you were*the best* or among *the best* then I feel sorry for you. The victory or failure is upon the whole group NOT just one or two, and no matter what the contribution is of each, each contributed to either of the failure or success. Being obnubilated by numbers is silly at best, you do know if you suck or not, I suck at being a BLM and I dont need a parser to tell me that I just can see it, in fact most players know their performance, what they dont know is HOW to better those not if they do well or not that is pretty much visible, and a parser is useless since they already know they suck, the only use it would have is to give others one more motive to demean players that are not up to THEIR standards (you know this true so dont tell me is not), you want players to be like you want them to be forgetting that players are person with each their own weaknesses, strenght to deal with, technical, physical, psychological, and those a parser cant tell you how they feel when they play with others or do a dungeon or what not.

Again if you want a parser, you have a plethora of those available use one, stay silent about it and group with like minded and just analyze your heart out..but leave the rest, those that dont want that stuff, in peace and move at their own pace.

The result is what matters, the group result, whaft does it matter if someone was just there to be carried ? you were there to beat the boss you did ...so move on and if you fail...well chances are you wont meet any of those ever again so ..move on. If you consider you lost your time, then chances are you shouldnt use DF to begin with and build your own static group'/PF party with your friends and those you have chosent, this way you wont have any of such problem, YET again, even among those there are days one is not putting all his efforts into the game and keep progression lower only you dont say anything right ? is your friend afterall so you forgive right ?

[Reynhart]

With a Group parser it's on everyone's screen, it's up to the people to use it correctly

Yes, you're on everyone else's screen even if you don't want to.

Last time I checked you said you don't talk about people who has sooo low dps but about those who barely has any dps loss, talk about 50-100 less they could done for example.

Yes, because, every time I faced someone whose DPS was so low it could end with a wipe in Midas 4 at 66%, a parser wasn't needed to point where the flaws where. And, most of the time I was in that situation, the flaws came from the mechanics, not the DPS. For example, people not focusing on add in 1st phase, healers used to tank swap after perpetual vs a tank that is confident about keeping the boss on him, or screwing discoids, people not dodging diffusion ray, etc... Apart from those obvious situation, I can assure you that any DPS who could beat the M4 SSS would not get caught by this kind of enrage.

I have news for ya, many people in trial do 60-70% less than they could do which leads to wipe. Why do people do things and wipe 7 other people on purpose? That's like trolling and you and I both know it is.

Of course it's trolling, since you stated that it was "on purpose"
I doubt it's always that and I still think that a parser is not the best solution for that.