Would you like an in-game parser?

[Seraphix2407]

Besides, a parser does not tell you what you did wrong, it only tells you that you did. If you don't bring a solution, then calling for the problem doesn't help.

Ofc I would have parsed the fight. I want to see what people put their time into, slacking or trying or doing their very very best. It's fine winning the fight, but there are serval reasons why they win it. They have great dps to make up for the one guys lower dps. Like I said and you ignored; why did I have a farm group with everyone having over 7-8 weapos over 50 kills get enrage? No seriously it happened all the time. That's not about a mistake, that's more about how they play. A mistake wont lower your dps by 600 dude. A mistake will lower slightly. The group I talked about barely had any death and that was 1 death. Then I made my own PF with fc people and the guy with the lowest dps in the other group joined mine, guess what, 6 kills a row, no wipes. Care to explain?

I will say it again, just because a healer kept you alive doesn't mean he did great or good. Sitting there doing nothing but cure 1-2 spam isn't a good healer, far from it. I can keep tanks alive without them using tank cds, does that make them a good good tank? Not really.

You are right, a parser doesn't tell you what you did wrong, it tells you that you need to improve however which MANY are in denial for, so a tool that are on their screen will tell them to get gud and they will soon or later realize how bad or dead weight they was for a group. I can tell people they need to improve their rotation, I can do only as much to link them one and help them out if needed.

There's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

[Reiryuu]

And this is where I have to stop you. I had 4 guys in my last party with over 7 weapons. They had all gotten most of it from tokens, but we got enrage. They killed it over 50-60 times and we stil got enrage? Care to explain?

What does that have to do with looking down on someone because you beat a boss/raid faster? What does this have anything to do with kicking someone because you guys didn't skip X phase on Y boss in ZZZ dungeon? Are you telling me you're going to sit and argue with them or kick them and wait for someone else just because you couldn't beat a dungeon boss fight X seconds faster? So 4 guys have 7 weapons. I have over 7 weapons too!

Sarcasm aside since I assume you're talking about Sephirot EX or Midas 8 Savage weapons, who knows? Maybe there was lag, maybe adds were being tanked in a different spot, maybe someone's equipment broke mid-fight and they didn't notice. Maybe there was a full moon that night and someone turned into a werewolf. Maybe you're amusing to someone when you get mad and they wanted to make you rage on purpose. I wasn't there, and I don't really care. You win some, you lose some. It's a game. Life goes on.

Respect goes both ways and don't be selfish and think of yourself.

Because saying someone isn't good or even "decent" because they beat a boss slower than you did isn't selfish at all.

[Launched]

And the same in fights like A1S, what would you say ?

I'd say it's one of those fights where you only need 1 healer most of the time.

[KonOkami]

Does a parser tell you that ? Does a parser tell you how many damage the DPS dodged ? Or how he ran around the arena to help someone on a add or to freeze a tornado because no ranged DPS bothered to do so ? Or how many DPS a SMN lost by raising several people in a row ? Or if the PLD needed some MP back so he kept using Riot Blade for several seconds ?

No, it does not. A parser is not an all powerful "know how", it's merely a tool that under the right conditions can be used PAIRED with everything else to give a more complete image of a run. I'm sure you've read been reading my posts too and know I'm not in favor of group parsing with no conditions. But as much as it can be abused, it can also prove to be a very useful tool

[Reisui]

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I've been through your previous posts, and indeed this seems the most fair way of handling.
Let's hope the ones against will warm to this idea, and hope that SE implements it some day

[Reiryuu]

No, it does not. A parser is not an all powerful "know how", it's merely a tool that under the right conditions can be used PAIRED with everything else to give a more complete image of a run. I'm sure you've read been reading my posts too and know I'm not in favor of group parsing with no conditions. But as much as it can be abused, it can also prove to be a very useful tool

And it can also be a distraction. Now you can be so concerned with what other people are doing that you're not concentrating on what you're doing.

[Archaell]

When the player is not doing enough dps then they should be informed about that happening. One of the reasons why so many players can't even do the basic rotation is because people suck it up silently and that person can inteionally or not do it in their next group...

If too many people of lower skill get in one group and nobody gets called on it, guess what happens? The whole group gets disbanded even if replacing one or two members could be enough to clear. This itself leads to frustration which in my opinion is far worse than any abuse parser could bring. Harassing with the numbers isn't easy, you need certain balls to do it and not many players have the courage to risk the white knights. On the other hand getting carried requires far less effort and as such more players can enjoy doing it in the shadows... transparency is one of the ways to limit the issue.

So pointing it out even if you clear can actually have a possitive effect in the long run - if the person wants to fix it of course.

[Seraphix2407]

Sarcasm aside.

I talked about seph weapons, many of them obtained through tokens which you need 10 kills for. Keep in mind that's a lot of kills. I could understand lag, but my server doesn't have a large population and usually we see the same people on PF. Each time I go with them, it's always the same. There are 2 people on this thread who recently posted who are on my server as well and I'm sure they can vouch for what I just told you. If peoples gear got broken, they would mostlikely say it, if not we would probably notice mid fight or before next pull. If a full right side or half of it is broken you can see the dps decreases, as much as your hp lowers if the left side is broken.

But I'm still wondering and no one seem to care to display the issue or how to fix it. However could see from a long distance your post was sarcastic and found it a bit funny as well haha.

@Rey I forgot to reply to you about the A1S, my old schoolar dpsed a lot there as well. My WHM raid barely had any issues in there if anything. I healed it once with him because he SCH wasn't on and I did it in first try as SCH. I was main DRG for 1-4 alex.

If too many people of lower skill get in one group and nobody gets called on it, guess what happens? The whole group gets disbanded even if replacing one or two members could be enough to clear. This itself leads to frustration which in my opinion is far worse than any abuse parser could bring.

Another good example.

[Reynhart]

Care to explain?

No, I don't, and that's exactly that, I don't care. Did we win ? Yes ? It's fine. No ? Bad luck. Did I see why, can I explain it too the team ? Yes ? I'll do it. No ? Never mind, I'll try another time.
In fact, that's what happened yesterday. For once, the bonus was for DPS in the trial roulette, so I took my BLM, by I ended up in Sephirot, which I've never done as a BLM...since I basically stopped playing BLM as soon as it reached 60.
Was I bad ? Of yes, I was...I could tell I was. Were others bad ? Yes, some of them made mistakes, yes. We wiped twice, we talked about strat, priorities, etc...and then we won. Yes, my roulette took more time that it should have, so what ?

You are right, a parser doesn't tell you what you did wrong, it tells you that you need to improve however which MANY are in denial for, so a tool that are on their screen will tell them to get gud and they will soon or later realize how bad or dead weight they was for a group.

Actually, if the tool is on their screen, they're not that much in denial. But here the tool is on your screen, not theirs.

There's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

A guide gives you knowledge of the path, practice is walking the path. A parser only tells you that the path you're on is wrong.

[Jkap_Goat]

No. I wouldn't like if one was added