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    Seraphix2407's Avatar
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I don't find mesuring fun, I find improving myself as player and helping other players improving fun. Why? Because their faces smile so hard, I can see their smile through my screen how happy they are to improve or saw a large improvement. Want to know my personal input on this thread? It's all about peoples feelings, it really is. What about those people out there on their ps4 would love to improve. Do you want to prevent them getting better and improve? Honestly many finding improving fun, so fun they start to realize being so good and wanted is just fun itself. Just being honest here. I've got told I'm bad in a moderate way and in nicest way, but each time I got told I was bad, I wanted it to stop, wanted people to start invite me and say hey, this guy he knows how to do his shit, so invite him. The joy of feeling I improved and could do content with 7 people, solo heal content and stil dish out 150-200 dps as SCH while solo healing it with 7 PLDS. That feeling is amazing. For me that's all fun. For me wiping a party because I would ignore the fact I was bad or just make up my own rotation would NEVER be fun, why? Because 7 other people doesn't have fun and I want them all to have fun with me and not by myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    Did I join a group with a bard or nin? then dmg is going to be low automatically.
    What makes you think that? I've seen BRDS do more than MNKS, DRGS, BLM and SMN. Same with ninja. Just because they have lower dps input doesn't mean it will ''automatically'' be low dps.


    This happened today. I was about to log out and this soul sent me a tell. if a guy likes his goddamn pancakes, doesn't mean he shouldn't eat them because you don't like them at all. Should we take care of your feelings because you don't like pancakes? Hell no, I want to eat my pancakes.
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    Last edited by Seraphix2407; 05-28-2016 at 09:31 AM.

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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    At which time it would be beneficial for the party as a whole to have to do less repetitions of it to decrease the chances of me being caught by something I'm less familiar with.
    You know what might be even better for the party ? Talking.
    Sharing strat so that no one would be caught "off-guard" by a "Oh, you do this that way"
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    This happened today. I was about to log out and this soul sent me a tell. if a guy likes his goddamn pancakes, doesn't mean he shouldn't eat them because you don't like them at all. Should we take care of your feelings because you don't like pancakes? Hell no, I want to eat my pancakes.
    It's nice and all but it sill does not answer one question: Why do I have to be parsed because this fellow want a parser ? Why do everybody have to eat pancakes because some of us want them ?
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You know what might be even better for the party ? Talking.
    Sharing strat so that no one would be caught "off-guard" by a "Oh, you do this that way"

    It's nice and all but it sill does not answer one question: Why do I have to be parsed because this fellow want a parser ? Why do everybody have to eat pancakes because some of us want them ?
    Why must I be judged on my healing performance because everyone can see the party HP list. Why must everyone see the emnity I generate in a list.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    Why must I be judged on my healing performance because everyone can see the party HP list. Why must everyone see the emnity I generate in a list.
    Did you let people die ? No. Then it's fine.
    Did the tank lose enmity ? No. Then it's fine.
    Did we kill the boss ? Yes...but seriously, we should have been faster to do it because I don't want to waste time on a slow team. And by the way, our healers did really too few DPS, so they were bad healers...and frankly, we had a PLD as a MT, it's a huge DPS penalty.

    And rejoice ! You'll also be judged by the parser, I'm sure you'll love having to sastify your party members on both.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reisui View Post
    Well, then the acceptable solution would be a personal parser.
    That was a suggestion, but people answered by "No, I want to see your numbers because it matters to me"...which has nothing in common to this "This good PS4 player want to improve, give him a tool to do it" good intention.
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    Lilli Karani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Did you let people die ? No. Then it's fine.
    Did the tank lose enmity ? No. Then it's fine.
    Its all a thing of the perspective.

    But when you answer both questions with "Yes", your "argument" is instantly dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    If you want to slack in a party of mine, you shouldn't even be in it after all.
    So we're back to this ? I'm a slacker because I don't want someone to parse me ?

    PLD is, saddly, a DPS penalty, because it does frequently less damage than WAR or DRK. So, when going blind and having no idea of how skilled the tanks are, you start with less potential DPS. Oh, and if it wasn't clear, I don't like PLD being rejected for it as much as I don't like this DPS number obsession.
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    But when you answer both questions with "Yes", your "argument" is instantly dead.
    So why do we still nitpick on DPS when we can answer "Yes" to their question ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    So why do we still nitpick on DPS when we can answer "Yes" to their question ?
    Why you nitpick thats okay everybody can see when a tank or a healer is failing to do its job?

    They should be on the same level of intransparency like its the case for DPS player.

    Feel free to make suggestions, how to implement such a feature.
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    Reisui Aisu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    It's nice and all but it sill does not answer one question: Why do I have to be parsed because this fellow want a parser ? Why do everybody have to eat pancakes because some of us want them ?
    Well, then the acceptable solution would be a personal parser. And have the possibility to have group parser for pre-made groups.

    As my friends and I would like to see what we can achieve as team-work
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    Last edited by Reisui; 05-30-2016 at 06:17 PM.