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    Seraphix2407's Avatar
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    No, I play for fun, not for measuring my performances
    Many plays less than 50% of what they can actually do, don't get me wrong, being 50-100 less is completely fine, when you drop down 300-500, that's when things usually goes wrong. For many (my own xperience) is they drop down 40-50% less they could pull off. I'm not saying you do, but many others do. There is no fun for me when a person holds me back, or doesn't pull effort as everyone else in group. It's not my job or my duty to doing way more than I could do just to satisfy someone who doesn't feel like doing their part of the role.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Many plays less than 50% of what they can actually do, don't get me wrong, being 50-100 less is completely fine, when you drop down 300-500, that's when things usually goes wrong. For many (my own xperience) is they drop down 40-50% less they could pull off. I'm not saying you do, but many others do. There is no fun for me when a person holds me back, or doesn't pull effort as everyone else in group. It's not my job or my duty to doing way more than I could do just to satisfy someone who doesn't feel like doing their part of the role.
    The problem there is the fact that people already expect others to do more than their intended role. Regardless of how well things are going or not, healers are expected to deal DPS too, and typically fairly large amounts. I've seen main healer white mage get kicked from a group for not doing 1,200 in i200. Like it or not, so long as healer expected DPS is kept at zero,any DPS that comes from your healers is in fact making up for the shortcomings of the actual DPS, regardless of how good/bad they are.

    ETA: Huzzah! 100 pages reached! New goal is 200. ' u'
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    Dement Drachte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    The problem there is the fact that people already expect others to do more than their intended role. Regardless of how well things are going or not, healers are expected to deal DPS too, and typically fairly large amounts. I've seen main healer white mage get kicked from a group for doing 1,200 in i200. Like it or not, so long as healer expected DPS is kept at zero,any DPS that comes from your healers is in fact making up for the shortcomings of the actual DPS, regardless of how good/bad they are.
    I'm assuming that happened during one of the over 9000 healers you've seen kicked for not DPSing. Most of the top scores for WHM in Hummelfaust are not over 1200 DPS and that's a fight which is solely a DPS check with the other healer doing the vast majority of the healing and were posted within the last month or two. Thus, I very highly doubt you know a WHM in i200 gear that did 1200 DPS.

    Contributing to DPS is not "more than their intended role" for any job. Every job has damage capabilities in some form or another and accuracy caps are such that every job can reach the accuracy cap in every fight. I'm not saying healers should be held to a DPS standard but if you're sitting around not casting anything because minimal damage is going out, it makes sense that you could fill that down time with something productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    The problem there is the fact that people already expect others to do more than their intended role. Regardless of how well things are going or not, healers are expected to deal DPS too, and typically fairly large amounts. I've seen main healer white mage get kicked from a group for not doing 1,200 in i200. Like it or not, so long as healer expected DPS is kept at zero,any DPS that comes from your healers is in fact making up for the shortcomings of the actual DPS, regardless of how good/bad they are.

    ETA: Huzzah! 100 pages reached! New goal is 200. ' u'
    You seen whm with ilvl 200 for not doing 1200 in ilvl 200, and then you said earlier 1250 healers been kicked since hw for not dpsing. It's very hard to take you serious, it really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    I never say I boot them personally, but I've been witness to a little over 1250 healers being booted since the beginning of Heavensward for not contributing DPS, and have only seen 2 or 3 that weren't booted for it..
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    Last edited by Seraphix2407; 05-28-2016 at 08:05 AM.