Would you like an in-game parser?

[Remus]

If you understand that some people don't want to participate in a competitive environment or activity, then would you be fine with letting people to hide their dps from others and hide others' dps from themselves? Talking about all content except Extremes and Savage.

So personal parser so you only see it? I wouldn't mind that either at least it some form of measuring yourself. I rather have either a group parser or a personal parser either one is fine.

[segagamer]

tl;dr
Anti parser players dont want parsers implemented because they'll actually have to put effort in dungeons rather than being carried

[Jynx]

tl;dr
Anti parser players dont want parsers implemented because they'll actually have to put effort in dungeons rather than being carried

tl;dr
Pro parser players want parses implemented so they can officially harass players with numbers.

Look I can make pointless untrue sweeping statements too!

[birdy_reene]

So personal parser so you only see it? I wouldn't mind that either at least it some form of measuring yourself. I rather have either a group parser or a personal parser either one is fine.

They already do have it, Sorta. The dummies in iddleshire from that one guy for seph ex, and the savages ect ect. But if they added a parse to it to let you know how your doing and where your lacking, I'd like them to force players to clear the dummies before they are allowed to attempt the actual content. This way it helps keep "there grade private" but also insures to others they don't have to carry dead weight. Half win for everyone.

[tjw]

But if they added a parse to it to let you know how your doing and where your lacking, I'd like them to force players to clear the dummies before they are allowed to attempt the actual content. This way it helps keep "there grade private" but also insures to others they don't have to carry dead weight. Half win for everyone.

Issue with this is that it would literally only be a 'half win' because it'll only test 1/2 of the party's roles. What of tank/healer roles? How do we test for these two roles so they aren't being 'carried'? If the requirement is to only DPS, that doesn't measure the tank's skill at keeping hate, or measure a healer's HPS and reaction times.

[birdy_reene]

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Good point, I cant think of a good fix for the tank thing, unless they create a mock situation like in the novice network quests for tanks where they gotta protect npc from getting hit/hold agro. Seems kinda out there, so your your right on that one. As far as Healer that's easy to solve with Dummies, Make aoes and what not that force the healer to move around, while requiring them to Heal dummies. Who will take dmg similar to how a party geared for that run would. and require that you keep the dummies up and running and or only allow for so many revives before the timer runs out. reverse dps check. Heal check. But im totally stumped on the tanking part. You got me with that one.

[Rawrz]

Good point, I cant think of a good fix for the tank thing, unless they create a mock situation like in the novice network quests for tanks where they gotta protect npc from getting hit/hold agro. Seems kinda out there, so your your right on that one. As far as Healer that's easy to solve with Dummies, Make aoes and what not that force the healer to move around, while requiring them to Heal dummies. Who will take dmg similar to how a party geared for that run would. and require that you keep the dummies up and running and or only allow for so many revives before the timer runs out. reverse dps check. Heal check. But im totally stumped on the tanking part. You got me with that one.

Make another dummy a healer dummy. It casts spells like Dummy cure or medica. You have to keep aggro off of the dummy. The Enemy dummy attacks for 10% of the players health every 3 seconds (relative to ilevel) The healer will heal 25% of your health every 10 seconds, again relatively. Every 60 seconds a tank buster will hit for 80% of a tanks HP at the appropriate ilevel followed by an autoattack. After that a dummy benediction, patches you back up. This tries to teach the use of keeping up cool downs, but saving a few, if you know when it's incoming. I feel you should get a score of Aggro% over healer dummy, damage mitigated, healing received, self healing and overall damage dealt, but an in game parser could do that for you.

Something like that, in a sense.

[birdy_reene]

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Yep there you go! I like that idea. Annndd problem solved, Attach the requirement said exercise be required to so savage or ex runs of that type, and if said run fails after that, it just means people are mechanically stupid, or lazy. I'd like thinking requiring the dummy checks before being permitted to go into savage or EX runs would help weed out lazy people though. They don't like added effort.