Would you like an in-game parser?

[Reynhart]

So I suppose I can go most of Midas Savage with 220, as I was able to beat most of them dummies with only 1500 dps. Supposedly, of course.

You can enter it, yes. Of course, your DPS will drop greatly on your first tries, but it's because you're still Learning the mechanics and how you can maximize your DPS while dealing with them

I don't raid so even if my dps is enough for that, it really isn't: I probably have to cut at least 20 or 30% of my current dps to make it look more reasonable.

SSS requires higher DPS than the corresponding content, because it's a static target. So the cut is also intended.

[Seraphix2407]

You can enter it, yes. Of course, your DPS will drop greatly on your first tries, but it's because you're still Learning the mechanics and how you can maximize your DPS while dealing with them

SSS requires higher DPS than the corresponding content, because it's a static target. So the cut is also intended.

I think there is a big problem as well. Many doesn't do SSS. If there is any, there is only a few of them who do actually. Add on would be right in front of their faces, 1 click away and it's on. And yes the SSS do need higher requirement in terms of DPS on them. Still doesn't mean many would nail mechanics with DPS as you mentioned. Many still struggle and need to find a way to fix that as well.

[Yuraq]

No, i don't need some idiot telling me my DPS isn't optimal when i'm just trying to have fun.

[Seraphix2407]

No, i don't need some idiot telling me my DPS isn't optimal when i'm just trying to have fun.

If you don't do enough DPS in savage or extreme primals. Don't bother. If you are in dungeons, I wouldn't care. If you are clicking same 1-3 button's and ignore everything else. Leave people alone, and calling people idiot's because some might want to help you, isn't excactly some rich words coming out of your mouth. If you are however decent and dont drop down 60% of your dps like dungeon people do (1-3 click skills), then who cares? I highly doubt you find mind who does too. Only thing I could think of people mention it, is you being lazy and not doing your part of the job/class.

Edit: It's so funny how you talk about people having fun:
This just happeened few min ago:
Want my opinion on your post? It's fine if everyone in the group has fun. Not 1 guy only. I guess your term of fun is having 66% enrage on normal mode alex.
So next time, be wise about your words, instead of calling people idiots.

[Lambdafish]

No, i don't need some idiot telling me my DPS isn't optimal when i'm just trying to have fun.

Is your DPS "not optimal" or is it "bad?" because if you are doing casual content or even primals and you are clearing them then nobody is even going to bat an eyelid that you could do 100 more DPS, nobody cares so long as the thing dies/the problem isn't damage. People start caring when things aren't dying, DPS checks aren't being met because one guy is doing ~500 dps less than the minimum he should be, and that's the only reason that the fight isn't being progressed.

I don't deny that assholes exist, but if that's your worry, then you are well within your right to call them out on it, they're the idiot who can't read a situation, and they aren't the majority by a large margin. Really, you are denying people a useful tool, over the fear of that.

[Seraphix2407]

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Check the picture I just posted. His term is ''fun'' How is it fun when few people in a group wanna do it half ass? How is it fun when we wipe at 66% enrage?
Then he calls people's idiots? No words how low people can go.

[LadyVal]

Really, you are denying people a useful tool, over the fear of that.

To be fair he did just say "no" as in he doesn't want one, not "no, eff you all who want one."

Check the picture I just posted. His term is ''fun'' How is it fun when few people in a group wanna do it half ass? How is it fun when we wipe at 66% enrage?
Then he calls people's idiots? No words how low people can go.

Was he in that group with you when that happened?

Seriously I get this is a passionate topic, but these responses to one new person claiming he doesn't want one because he doesn't want to be harassed by idiots in general via a parser... this is getting a little witch-hunty.

[Seraphix2407]

To be fair he did just say "no" as in he doesn't want one, not "no, eff you all who want one."
Seriously I get this is a passionate topic, but these responses to one new person claiming he doesn't want one because he doesn't want to be harassed by idiots in general via a parser... this is getting a little witch-hunty.

No he wasn't. He said he doesn't want people to harras him, but calling people idiots is fine? If I was telling that group the DPS was low, I would probably been one of those ''idiot's'' he talks about, no? I never told them they were bad, some one left on his own and I left right after, left me and my friend no peneality, because I wanted to help. In all honesty, I get you with your witch-hunt comment, but please, give me a good reason why it's fine to call people ''idiots'' because there are people willing to help others out, but they have no power, before people turn into idiots helping out, or people being offended by the slightest little thing.

He doesn't want people to harras him right? What about a large scale of the community doesn't want people to be lazy or give a damn? Respect goes both ways no? Or am I wrong?

I know I shouldn't posted that one comment, how should I put it.. immature. So I shouldn't have left it there, however, calling idiot's isn't excactly mature, especially saying he doesn't want people to harras him, but started of harrasing people. I take my blame, and I went a bit far there, he however. I'd love to see his own respons on the topic.

[Lambdafish]

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I was trying to be polite, but thanks for the picture, I've seen a few in this thread and the lack of posts showing parser harassment really paints a picture of the REAL problems in the game.

To be fair he did just say "no" as in he doesn't want one, not "no, eff you all who want one."

I wasn't actually referring to the player solely, rather the mentality that is being driven by the opinion as a whole (I tried to be as polite as possible). This isn't about witch hunts, in fact the opposite, and your reaction towards Seaphix is really confusing. Her entire point is not directed at the player, but rather providing proof of the countless points and rebuttals that we have been providing for 80 pages. This thread has actually been very reasonable for one that has lasted this far and the group that "will use a parser for harassment" has simply tried to prove it's points with evidence and solutions with the attempt to provide ways to make the game better and more accessible for those willing to try.

Remind me again where the witch hunt is?

[LadyVal]

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He didn't single anyone out and implied that anyone, in general, who would harass him over having low numbers is an idiot. He didn't say anyone who ever comments on his DPS is an idiot. He said he doesn't want people nagging him that his DPS isn't optimal, and that those people would be idiots.

I've read this thread. You've had to defend yourself a lot. You've made some very valid and respectable points. But you're getting super defensive, over sensitive, and picking fights with the wrong people now. Calm down.

I wasn't actually referring to the player solely...

Remind me again where the witch hunt is?

And yet you chose to quote him and address him directly...? Either way, the way you two responded to his posts doesn't put either of you in a positive light and both sides could stand to not lump the other and make it a big "us" vs. "them" issue and I'm not responding to either of you further because you're obviously both worked up over this and with you, specifically, I refuse to cater to your thinly veiled passive-aggressiveness and eyelash batting.