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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    I mean, when I beat a dummy under the time limit of 3:00, I wish it could tell me my performance somehow (and not by going to an EXTERNAL SITE to calculate it). I was hoping it would give a rank, like from F to S, so that at least it tells you how you went in case you failed to beat the dummy. But nope, it just vanishes and that's it. You're automatically ready for the real fight!

    But yes as of now, SSS is just a waste of resources and I do hope they add more valuable feedback in the future (I doubt it)
    If you beat the dummy, you can calculate your performance compared to the requirement by dividing 3 minutes by your completion time. For example if you beat it in 2 minutes 30 seconds (150 s), you did 180 s / 150 s = 1.20 = 120% as much dps as you needed. So 20% higher than the requirement.

    If you don't beat the dummy, you can see your performance by looking at the remaining HP % on the dummy as the time expires. If it's at 20%, then you only did 80% of the requirement.

    Do don't need actual damage numbers to see your progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If you beat the dummy, you can calculate your performance compared to the requirement by dividing 3 minutes by your completion time. For example if you beat it in 2 minutes 30 seconds (150 s), you did 180 s / 150 s = 1.20 = 120% as much dps as you needed. So 20% higher than the requirement.

    If you don't beat the dummy, you can see your performance by looking at the remaining HP % on the dummy as the time expires. If it's at 20%, then you only did 80% of the requirement.

    Do don't need actual damage numbers to see your progress.
    That's helpful....how about give that information in-game, instead of forcing us to make our own calculations? It's not that the game is so underpowered that it can't handle basic calculations to show us (PvP shows us damage and healing done at the end, just to name one)

    On the other hand I have a parser, so my take on SSS was just one to help boost its utility, because I find literally no use on it: with my own dummy at my place I can time myself an have the same results as in SSS, except it won't forcibly destroy itself. Talk about glorified target dummies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If you beat the dummy, you're good enough, that's technically the only feedback you need. And when you fail, it's easy to look at the remaining health to "judge" how close you failed.
    For several days, I failed A5S SSS at 1%...and yes, it's frustrating
    But I did it with a new weapon, yeah !
    So I suppose I can go most of Midas Savage with 220, as I was able to beat most of them dummies with only 1500 dps. Supposedly, of course.

    I don't raid so even if my dps is enough for that, it really isn't: I probably have to cut at least 20 or 30% of my current dps to make it look more reasonable. We don't need rocket science to see that I'm far too undergeared and underpowered for even attempting a single floor. But thankfully I don't care anymore about raiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    So I suppose I can go most of Midas Savage with 220, as I was able to beat most of them dummies with only 1500 dps. Supposedly, of course.
    You can enter it, yes. Of course, your DPS will drop greatly on your first tries, but it's because you're still Learning the mechanics and how you can maximize your DPS while dealing with them
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    I don't raid so even if my dps is enough for that, it really isn't: I probably have to cut at least 20 or 30% of my current dps to make it look more reasonable.
    SSS requires higher DPS than the corresponding content, because it's a static target. So the cut is also intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You can enter it, yes. Of course, your DPS will drop greatly on your first tries, but it's because you're still Learning the mechanics and how you can maximize your DPS while dealing with them

    SSS requires higher DPS than the corresponding content, because it's a static target. So the cut is also intended.
    I think there is a big problem as well. Many doesn't do SSS. If there is any, there is only a few of them who do actually. Add on would be right in front of their faces, 1 click away and it's on. And yes the SSS do need higher requirement in terms of DPS on them. Still doesn't mean many would nail mechanics with DPS as you mentioned. Many still struggle and need to find a way to fix that as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    I think there is a big problem as well. Many doesn't do SSS. If there is any, there is only a few of them who do actually.
    That's why some people suggested to gate the content by the corresponding SSS trial. Because sure, beating SSS doesn't automatically mean you'll get along fine in the content, but, if you don't even beat SSS, then showing in the content is just a waste of time for everybody.

    It would also prevent buying runs for really bad, but rich, players
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