Would you like an in-game parser?

[Hayward]

Man, that video is the truth for all MMO's in this current decade, and probably for the rest of the genre's lifespan.

People are literally encouraged to perform within mediocrity or below because things are made to facilitate that mindset. Tokens for gear, no competition for rare pieces of armor (or rare pieces of armor in general, nothing really jumps out at you anymore, it's crafted, tomes, or endgame gear). For majority of the 60 content it only requires ilvl equivalent gear and the ability to push three buttons to finish the dungeon. That's all the 99% needs...and in the hopes of making money, SE would rather bank on the mediocrity of the 99% than the dedication of the 1%

I was going to stay out of this thread as my position is known and I've said all I have to say on the matter, but this comment cannot be allowed to go unanswered.

People who have their heads all gassed up and think like this need to know one thing: You are not the Special Snowflakes you fancy yourselves to be. You've worked your way through Savage content and can farm Sephirot EX in your sleep? Good for you, but don't even think you're above everyone else just because you're one of the few who are doing this content regularly. Being part of an endgame static group does not give you license to trash people who get their gear through means other than raiding.

[Seraphix2407]

I.

But where does people say (pro parsers) say it's fine to trash people who doesn't do seph extreme or savage? Mostlikely those who doesn't can't do it or simply doesn't want to. No one mention those at all, so I don't really see where you going with your comment. I don't really care how much dps they do in dungeons as long they are putting enough effort atleast, rather than half ass it and expect people to do the whole job for lazy one.
I have to say it again:
No one gives a damn about those who focus on roulettes or normal mode alex only. No one cares about those peoples dps in dungeons as long they are doing a decent amount of effort.
No one gives a damn ass abou those who doesn't raid or even want to do extreme primals. What we do care about are people who do savage or primals and they need to pull effort into it. We aren't saying you need to be top elite player to do it as long you put your weight on it which is about 80-85% of your own effort.

Even if you don't raid or don't do extreme primals, doesn't give you the right to just AFK or click 1-2 buttons through out the dungeon.

[Moomba33]

For me not wanting a public parser isn't about being lazy. I do try in dungeons. I just don't really want to play XIV with the constant feeling that I'm being evaluated.

I think a personal parser with an option for pre-made groups to opt in to a public parser would solve most issues. Or just make the public parser standard for Extremes/Raids/high end content where DPS checks are an issue.

[Seraphix2407]

For me not wanting a public parser isn't about being lazy. I do try in dungeons. I just don't really want to play XIV with the constant feeling that I'm being evaluated.

I think a personal parser with an option for pre-made groups to opt in to a public parser would solve most issues. Or just make the public parser standard for Extremes/Raids/high end content where DPS checks are an issue.

I agree with that. Because we all know that most pro parsers talk about high end content, so I don't really know why people mention dungeons. However, it is sad when people let people stay lazy in dungeons and just accept it. No, just no.

[KarstenS]

but don't even think you're above everyone else just because you're one of the few who are doing this content regularly.

When you just want entertainment without effort, you watch a quiz show in TV.

When you want a challange, you participate in the quiz show.

Same here.

When you just want entertainment without eny effort, playing a game is not the right thing for you. You should sit back and watch only, like in the quiz show example above.

Playing games is for people, that are sick of just consuming without anything to do. Playing games is for people that want the challenge and not just watch it.

[Reynhart]

When you just want entertainment without eny effort, playing a game is not the right thing for you. You should sit back and watch only, like in the quiz show example above.

So, playing a video game is not for those who just want entertainement ?!
Do you realize what nonsense this is ?

Make the parsers standars for extremes/raids/high end content where dps checks are issue.

Yes, make parsers who could feel like you're judged standard in the only content where people would take the time to judge you...That's still the same issue.
No one would ever call out on your DPS in extreme dungeons, hard mode trials or 24-man raid...

[Seraphix2407]

So, playing a video game is not for those who just want entertainement ?!
Do you realize what nonsense this is ?

Yes, make parsers who could feel like you're judged standard in the only content where people would take the time to judge you...That's still the same issue.
No one would ever call out on your DPS in extreme dungeons, hard mode trials or 24-man raid...

I don't follow, sorry? You talk about having parsers in extremes/raids a bad thing as well?
Because in this content dps actually matters and well if you can't do enough and I talk about knowing atleast what you are doing, that should be more than enough. If people can't fix their shit in there, they have to somewhat practice more or even know more about their class.

[Reynhart]

I don't follow, sorry? You talk about having parsers in extremes/raids a bad thing as well?

I talk about forcing parsers on others as a bad thing. If everyone in a party want it, fine, use it. But if someone doesn't want, then he still have the right to do so...without being called lazy or "almost certainly bad".
Like you can ask if you can parse anyone without being called an asshole.

XIV is across the PS3 and PS4 where those players literally have no access to such a tool, putting them at a "disadvantage" to PC players if they ever wanted or needed to use a parser.

Technically, just being on PS3 is considered a disadvantage by some, simply with longer loading times. And you already see people asking to shutdown this playerbase entirely.

[Seraphix2407]

I talk about forcing parsers on others as a bad thing. If everyone in a party want it, fine, use it. But if someone doesn't want, then he still have the right to do so...without being called lazy or "almost certainly bad".
Like you can ask if you can parse anyone without being called an asshole.

Well true, but if people somewhat finds out this guy doesn't pull his weight, he shouldn't be there in the first place no?. Don't get me wrong, everyone has a chance, but if he/she is the person who doesn't pull their weight, that's a problem as well. If hes decent, he stays and that's totally fine. If he undeperform under the % he should do, then he should fix it. That's my honest opinion.

[Reynhart]

Well true, but if people somewhat finds out this guy doesn't pull his weight, he shouldn't be there in the first place no?. Don't get me wrong, everyone has a chance, but if he/she is the person who doesn't pull their weight, that's a problem as well. If hes decent, he stays and that's totally fine. If he undeperform under the % he should do, then he should fix it. That's my honest opinion.

Yes, it's true. Like I said in my previous example, if I did SSS and if I already won before, then there is no reason for you to parse me if I don't want to. Maybe I'm not up to your standards, but I am for the content standards, and that's enough.
But people tend to be more strict than the game itself, and that's my issue. Like asking for a relic to invite for Titan hard mode...