To reply to you about serious discussions:
Look at how people talk in this thread? I'm seriously going to go through the whole thread tomorrow and quote something similar, just cba atm as I need to sleep soon. Calling people piece of shit and then act whiteknight? Really?!
And this person say community isn't mature? Look at how some anti parser people talks. I don't say everyone, but they exist, very much in this thread. The irony in many post. Now I don't agree with what the guy said about people being lazy. I'm aware and so are others people can dip of how they play their class and have no info how to improve. But before you talk about people being serious on discussion, go look for those people who are anti parser people calling people assholes, piece of shit, etc you name it.
Don't get me wrong but:
From what I understand, he doesn't really say everyone, but there are many, far too many. There are more of lazy players than those pro parser assholes which you and many speak of. Want data and proof of it? I could go on for weeks, months day and compare to what I experience including people in my fc. I talk about people being jerks about parsers vs those who lazy, and when I talk lazy there are many of them ignoring the problem.
There are so many reasons why there are few people being assholes about parsers, because it offends people and when it happens they get reported, simple. I can report people for being lazy and actually ''trolling'' us. I actually witness it once, a guy wasn't even doing anything at all in the dungeon and the GM just showed up and removed him by himself. Why? The guy was selfish enough to barely do anything on mobs and refused to listen, the other guy in the group didn't want to kick him so I reported them both. I'm soooooooo glad some GM's find this as harrasement and toxic too.
No it's not okay to call anti parser people lazy, much as people shouldn't call parser people assholes.
What I've said countless of times, people who parsers can be assholes, but don't be in denial those who are anti parser people (not everyone) can be lazy. Both groups can be assholes in different terms. I'm actually so tired of saying it actually much as many pro parsers, time after time say it nearly every post: REPORT PEOPLE WHO HARRAS YOU WITH PARSERS! Yet you see 10000 people calling few of us assholes in this thread or like this guy I quoted calling people of shit. Is that a good example? I just want to give up sometimes,lol.