Would you like an in-game parser?

[Seraphix2407]

See the example I gave to Lady Celes. Whatever your DPS is, you can always end with someone who want more. Enough DPS is not...enough.

And many pro parsers in this thread already stated enough dps is enough. If you do lets say 900 on BRD with a DRG in party and the other BRD does 1.400. You know there is somewhat a problem, and they both can be same geared as well. Many farms parties doesn't even have enough dps to clear/farm content, because it happened to have all the dps who doesn't pull enough. Now, If I do help people and there is a brd doing 1.1k and doesn't die and do mechs fine, I'll let him stay. And parsing again ISN'T JUST NUMBERS. Many including myself have repeated that, so many time's it's getting old dont you think my friend? How many people do you meet that gonna whine that someone is doing less, lets say 50-150 then the top dps in the group? Then say it's not enough? I'm very SURE, you don't see many. But if a person does 600-850 in a seph farm group, they better know how to play better. Just my opinion.

I could also give you tons of screenshots of people not doing enough, leech or just being lazy. That amount of players exist more than those you describe, so I don't really know what you are afraid of excactly. Or is it the fact you want to protect those who are so bad, you don't want them to be ''offended''?

Edit: Check on reddit, I think it's on the frontpage, a guy posted some parser info on the page there and there was DRG, MCH, MNK etc doing 500-700 in M4 normal and both tanks outspdes them. Those are the one's we want to fix, I don't really care if someone is doing 100-150 less or even 200 less than they should, but please ? 500-700? We all know those people are the ones we trying to avoid at all cost. And no the boss enraged at amazing 44%...

[Reynhart]

Or is it the fact you want to protect those who are so bad, you don't want them to be ''offended''?

See my reason above.
The more we focus on damage numbers, the more DPS checks we'll have, so we'll focus moreon damage, for more DPS checks, etc...

In 10 years of FFXI, I've never been bothered by not having a relic, or a full Salvage or Empyrean+2 set as a WHM, because I didn't let people die. Were my heals the strongest ? Probably not. Was my damage good ? Hmm...no, but WHM damage was crap whatever gear you have. Was I mocked because I put my merit points in Barrier spells ? No. No one cared, because I still did my job. But it was my build, my choices, and the WHM I liked.
Compared to that, this game is bland, it is hollow. And this obssesion plays a big role in it.

And worse...even 1.23 was more interesting when it came to build. Choosing classes over jobs was a tactical choice sometimes, as was choosing gear...but yeah, I'm just lazy, I'm just fishy...and I'm just starting to be bored by this game.

Alright. Intramural sports team and the stats a friend keeps.

So, if I'm the goalkeeper in a soccer team and we win every watch, you'll bitch about how I didn't stop every ball ? Or how many miles I traveled during the whole match ?
The more metaphor you'll make, the less "it's only for helping" you'll sound...

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

So, if I'm the goalkeeper in a soccer team and we win every watch, you'll bitch about how I didn't stop every ball ? Or how many miles I traveled during the whole match ?
The more metaphor you'll make, the less "it's only for helping" you'll sound...

No. No one said that. Only you did. You're creating these false situations to fit your narrative and that happening would just be absurd. If that happened, people would probably tell the dude to chill out.

[Seraphix2407]

See my reason above.
The more we focus on damage numbers, the more DPS checks we'll have, so we'll focus moreon damage, for more DPS checks, etc...

There is already DPS checks and the reason's we want parsers is because many can't even forfill them.

I played FFXI too, I was one of the first people to legit kill AV too after it got fixed. Comparing FFXI to FF14 is a bit hard to do, because FFXI had no balance of classes, you know how it was. NIN was supose to be DPS, they ended up being tanks, RDM could RDM/NIN end game tank at 75. The job system was pretty much unbalanced and broken that people adjusted and played them however they wanted. In FF14 things are linear and you follow that linear rotation, depending on fights you adjust to situations and adapt your dps to mechanics. But the rotatin itsself linear. So are the fight's so you should know when and what you should do. I never tried 1.0 FF14 sadly but wish we kept some of it after all the things I've heard.

But don't get me wrong, I somewhat understand you but same time you make it sound like parser is a cancer and is going to kill a whole game because of the ''toxic'' it can cause. If toxic is the problem you are afraid of, the game would been dead by that logic many uses(not saying you do). There is alot more problems in the game than parser can ever cause.

I think a good step towards helping people is SE actually gives gated content, in form of DPS checks to enter the place, like how Faust wrecks people in M1. Give them some better understanding on their classes, because we all there is not much of it already. Add content that doesn't have super big gap between 24man raid vs extremes and savage. Midas normal is somewhat faceroll content but then sadly we know many can't even do those. Things like these steps would help as well, but then again having a parser doesn't only give out numbers. They give info healers, tanks and dps want. If people can analize their own data they could also see what went wrong or not. Many go around thinking they do fine but when they get told by their good friend they are more shocked than surprised.

[Zenji]

If you get ridiculed by someone for not having optimal gear and numbers, they would still do so with or without an in game parser.