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  1. #681
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    I find it funny that the FPS-crowd comparison was made and people still didn't realize how accurate it is to this topic.

    I hope you* get your parser, because it will make the game more enjoyable for you on your terms.
    I hope the parser is limited to the savage/extreme content where it and the DPS uber Alles mentality is actually relevant. The other 95+% of the population doesn't really need it for the rest of the content.

    *I'll leave it up to you to decide whether "you" applies to you.
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  2. #682
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slevin_Impudicus View Post
    The other 95+% of the population doesn't really
    -This isnt true for everyone. After doing a dungeon 259482934863428976596 times I dont want to be in it any longer than i have to. If my party maximizes their over all dps then it gets me out sooner and i can also farm quicker and more efficiently.

    -Honestly parsing is like getting a job. You dont have to. You can chose to not better your self. If you do, people will insult you at work. If you dont, people will insult you for being unemployed. Trying to build a game around the sensitive players isnt going to make the trolls troll any less it only gives them fuel because its now more obvious that it bothers them. Honestly just play your game and enjoy it. If people are mean or exploit things then so be it. Thats life, and this is a game. Besides there is already a rule about harassing people in game, it doesnt matter what they are talking about when they do it.(sexism, racial slurs, lack of ilvl) You can still report them all the same. I support getting an in game parser. Do i like jerks who stroke their e-peen while insulting anyone with lower numbers? Does it matter if i do? They arent going away. So im going to enjoy myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    The truth will set us free... To harass others! OK, sure, why not, let's have parsers. Could be fun.
    Personally I'd rather live the nightmare of a truth than a comforting lie.

    Iono... If people are gonna harass me anyway, it might as well be for something I did.
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  4. #684
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    Personally I'd rather live the nightmare of a truth than a comforting lie.

    Iono... If people are gonna harass me anyway, it might as well be for something I did.
    Marry me please.
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  5. #685
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    You are in a room with 10 people, 9 loves pancakes and 1 doesn't. So to make that 1 single guy not feel offended, they all stop eating pancakes.
    So you are in a room with 10 people, with pancakes and croissants. 9 love pancakes, do the last one absolutely need to eat a pancake to be in the group ? Is he a bad breakfaster because he want to eat a croissant ?
    Or is it better for the 9 people to take the last one and shove a pancake in his throat even though he doesn't want one this morning ?

    On another day, maybe he would have eaten a pancake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    So you are in a room with 10 people, with pancakes and croissants. 9 love pancakes, do the last one absolutely need to eat a pancake to be in the group ? Is he a bad breakfaster because he want to eat a croissant ?
    Or is it better for the 9 people to take the last one and shove a pancake in his throat even though he doesn't want one this morning ?*

    On another day, maybe he would have eaten a pancake.
    No you go eat some Croissants with the people that want them? Yay Pastry logic. We've been over this. Its the same as loot master. Also, if it was just a personal parser, nothing changes, except people know their own numbers. Group parsers will continue to exist as they were. If you dont like it disable the personal parser in hud.
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  7. #687
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    No you go eat some Croissants with the people that want them? Yay Pastry logic.
    So, if I meet one interesting person who happens to love pancakes, I can't spend time with him because I don't want to eat pancakes ?
    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Honestly parsing is like getting a job.
    Except a job gives you money, which help you buying food, paying your rent...we're not really on the same scale of "needed" here...and sure, when I play a game, the first thing I want is considering it like a job...
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  8. #688
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    So, if I meet one interesting person who happens to love pancakes, I can't spend time with him because I don't want to eat pancakes ?
    I mean, who do you like more? Not having pancakes or this person? If this person chooses to eat pancakes, they are choosing them over you?

    But honestly if you just had a personal parser, from the no parser crowd stand point, no one would be any wiser, but yourself. Turning it off as easily as you could your Map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    I mean, who do you like more? Not having pancakes or this person? If this person chooses to eat pancakes, they are choosing them over you?
    Why would this person should chose what I eat because we're in the same room ? Why would your breakfast only have pancakes ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    But honestly if you just had a personal parser, from the no parser crowd stand point, no one would be any wiser, but yourself. Turning it off as easily as you could your Map.
    But, from the group-parser crowd, it would be the same wether I have a personal parser or no parser. They wouldn't be able to see my numbers, so...they wouldn't eat breakfast with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Why would this person should chose what I eat because we're in the same room ? Why would your breakfast only have pancakes ?

    But, from the group-parser crowd, it would be the same wether I have a personal parser or no parser. They wouldn't be able to see my numbers, so...they wouldn't eat breakfast with me.
    Again it's the same as lootmaster. You are the one deciding that you don't want to be parsed. I won't join a farm with a shady lootmaster, neither should you join a parsed farm if you feel it isn't right.

    In places like Expert Roulette, unless you preformed all 4 members, you wouldnt even have the option for a group parser. You would have just your personal parser. Sad for Asts, but at least if they manage to preform, they can be at their best.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 05-21-2016 at 04:06 PM.

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