Would you like an in-game parser?

[Seraphix2407]

Will parsers lead to a spike in harassment? It is certainly a possibility. Will people harass using parser data? Most certainly, they do now, they will if they are made official. But it isn't an all encompassing thing where every parser user is going to go out of their way to harass others and really I think people are focusing too much on it.

A guy comes to me and say; Hey!! Arawn your DRG dps about 300 lower than it should be, mind if I can teach you how to play, rotation and whatnot? Now, was this guy offending me? Nope
Many find this offensive, I will say it again.

You are in a room with 10 people, 9 loves pancakes and 1 doesn't. So to make that 1 single guy not feel offended, they all stop eating pancakes.
Get me now? Yes I'm aware many say, you suck etc etc. I get it, many in here in fact get it, so no one needs to tell us, we are well aware of it. What you and some in here aren't aware of (look at my example about a guy telling me about my drg dps) is that those words arent even offensive at all. People just get offended by anything these days.

Just to bounce off this train of thought further, the implementation of a global parser could also cause a reduction in harassment cases as well since the part of the community that is "Gitgud scrub" when they themselves are the weakest link in an entire group would be muzzled since their poor performance would be reflected openly.

While there are a myriad of different scenarios we all can throw out in the open, we won't know what actually will occur until (if) a parser gets implemented.

Excactly my thoughts. Many players who doesn't know why they arent part of a team, get invited to hard content, they all still wonder why. Many of those are those who need to get gud, simply, so if there was, lets say a parser in game and they saw those data/info for themselves maybe they would light up and think; Oh, I was the bad link this entire time, thank god we finally have a parser so I can join those cool groups! yay! Many actually feels this way after some of them got parsers, woop and it's soo fun watching them being so excited, using hours, days to improve with fc members or friends, it's all good. The best part? They improved so much everyone wants to have them on their team and that feeling my friend, is awesome .

[SDaemon]

A guy comes to me and say; Hey!! Arawn your DRG dps about 300 lower than it should be, mind if I can teach you how to play, rotation and whatnot? Now, was this guy offending me? Nope
Many find this offensive, I will say it again.

....What you and some in here aren't aware of....

Um....sorry I'm at a bit of a loss. I never said words like those were offensive O.o I haven't even argued anything in this thread outside my first post about my vote for a personal parser and my last 2 posts about this harassment thing being blow out of proportions...

[Ghishlain]

Um....sorry I'm at a bit of a loss. I never said words like those were offensive O.o I haven't even argued anything in this thread outside my first post about my vote for a personal parser and my last 2 posts about this harassment thing being blow out of proportions...

I think they were just agreeing with you with an example of "what can possibly be harassment but isn't", is my thought xD And how the harassment angle can indeed be overblown.

[SDaemon]

I think they were just agreeing with you with an example of "what can possibly be harassment but isn't", is my thought xD And how the harassment angle can indeed be overblown.

Oh ok, their response had me confused. If that's the case then I think we agree (at least on some level haha)

My poor choice of words, so please forgive me. I never meant to say you find it offensive, many do however find these words offensive. Thats's why many people use the offensive card when it comes to pro parsers or people who in general just parser. I shouldn't have used the word YOU at all so my bad. Please take my excuse.

And this pretty much

My bad of poor choice of words again! So I'm sorry.

No worries, I didn't see your post until after I responded to Ghislain's.

[Seraphix2407]

Um....sorry I'm at a bit of a loss. I never said words like those were offensive O.o I haven't even argued anything in this thread outside my first post about my vote for a personal parser and my last 2 posts about this harassment thing being blow out of proportions...

My poor choice of words, so please forgive me. I never meant to say you find it offensive, many do however find these words offensive. Thats's why many people use the offensive card when it comes to pro parsers or people who in general just parser. I shouldn't have used the word YOU at all so my bad. Please take my excuse.

And this pretty much

I think they were just agreeing with you with an example of "what can possibly be harassment but isn't", is my thought xD And how the harassment angle can indeed be overblown.

My bad of poor choice of words again! So I'm sorry. >.> Super emberased for being a jackass for a second there towards SDaemon, so sorry D:

Edit 1: Because you posted, but yes I do agree with what you said and I do see your point, so don't get me wrong.

[Reynhart]

You are in a room with 10 people, 9 loves pancakes and 1 doesn't. So to make that 1 single guy not feel offended, they all stop eating pancakes.

So you are in a room with 10 people, with pancakes and croissants. 9 love pancakes, do the last one absolutely need to eat a pancake to be in the group ? Is he a bad breakfaster because he want to eat a croissant ?
Or is it better for the 9 people to take the last one and shove a pancake in his throat even though he doesn't want one this morning ?

On another day, maybe he would have eaten a pancake.

[Rawrz]

So you are in a room with 10 people, with pancakes and croissants. 9 love pancakes, do the last one absolutely need to eat a pancake to be in the group ? Is he a bad breakfaster because he want to eat a croissant ?
Or is it better for the 9 people to take the last one and shove a pancake in his throat even though he doesn't want one this morning ?*

On another day, maybe he would have eaten a pancake.

No you go eat some Croissants with the people that want them? Yay Pastry logic. We've been over this. Its the same as loot master. Also, if it was just a personal parser, nothing changes, except people know their own numbers. Group parsers will continue to exist as they were. If you dont like it disable the personal parser in hud.

[Reynhart]

No you go eat some Croissants with the people that want them? Yay Pastry logic.

So, if I meet one interesting person who happens to love pancakes, I can't spend time with him because I don't want to eat pancakes ?

Honestly parsing is like getting a job.

Except a job gives you money, which help you buying food, paying your rent...we're not really on the same scale of "needed" here...and sure, when I play a game, the first thing I want is considering it like a job...

[Rawrz]

So, if I meet one interesting person who happens to love pancakes, I can't spend time with him because I don't want to eat pancakes ?

I mean, who do you like more? Not having pancakes or this person? If this person chooses to eat pancakes, they are choosing them over you?

But honestly if you just had a personal parser, from the no parser crowd stand point, no one would be any wiser, but yourself. Turning it off as easily as you could your Map.

[Reynhart]

I mean, who do you like more? Not having pancakes or this person? If this person chooses to eat pancakes, they are choosing them over you?

Why would this person should chose what I eat because we're in the same room ? Why would your breakfast only have pancakes ?

But honestly if you just had a personal parser, from the no parser crowd stand point, no one would be any wiser, but yourself. Turning it off as easily as you could your Map.

But, from the group-parser crowd, it would be the same wether I have a personal parser or no parser. They wouldn't be able to see my numbers, so...they wouldn't eat breakfast with me.