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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    People want to get things done fast. Parsers are a tool within that purpose, but they are not the cause of it.
    When I mention this, I was giving an example of how a uncommon thing in the beggining, can turn into a unavoidable rule for all. I wasn't suggesnting that parser are the cause of speedruns, jsut how a thing becomes more common.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I am of the belief that most players in this game are mature enough not to harass people with it. Right now, the only reason you can reasonably state "the only people who harass people about their DPS are people with parses", is because of the fact that only people with parsers can see dps numbers. It'd be impossible for anyone else to see. This also completely neglects the entire subsect of people who don't harass people while using a parser, or hell - like myself, even compliment others when we see amazing dps, and can use our parser to see without watching one person like a hawk that someone might be underperforming.
    Of course, while I agree the DPS meters can help people to improve or allows players help others improve, the majority of community usually doesn't care about this players, or simply will ignore them or will try kick them. It is very usual that people even doesn't care in say "hello" at the beggining of a dungeon. Of course, I'm talking about random parties on duty finder, which is the issue who bother me. Between friends, the parse won't do anything bad.

    But, my experience says that people like you and me, how are usually friendly, are very few. Most of the community doesn't care about others and I feel some of them want a parse to start discard a soon as possible the called "bad seeds", which I think is horrible.

    I am not saying there is not people wishing to help others, of course there are. But they are a very, very low number compared which those who don't care about other ordirectly will harrass players instead of trying offer help. Also I agree that a lot of people refuses help, but we cannot punish all the casual who really can't improve (cause IRl or whatever) for this ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    You have to accept you can never fully prevent harassment, and punishing the majority for the sake of preventing the minority will never be a good solution!
    I have a different vision here, I think the majority of the player correspons to the "Don't care about others" group. I consider the averga player base very rude agains most of players, or just indiferente. I found really hard find nice people on random parites (of course, like I said before, this is all about the random parties on Duty Finder or party finder with people you don't know).

    I think the player base need to mature a lot,and be the proper players who tell other "Hey, stop harras that player with numbers!". I rarely see a player defending other random player. If the player base agreed wich is the limit for parsing, will be the proper player base which auto-regulate the community, by not accpeting plyers who harras with number. I think that's very hard to happed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Permit me to say, your english is quite beautiful. I would not of known it was 'bad' in your eyes less you said it, so - have some more confidence in yourself! Just be like "x3 Muh english is *****in'!'
    Better don't hear me in Team Speak :P

    PD: I wish more poeple were able to argumnet like you here isntead of just trying to ridiculize others like I read sometimes aroind here. You're a excelent example of debating.
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 05-17-2016 at 11:54 PM.