Would you like an in-game parser?

[Seraphix2407]

some parsers were giving people an in-game advantage by detecting hunt targets before players could actually see them.

I haven't heard about any parser doing that. I used to play on ps4 till I changed to pc recently, however. That thing you speak of is not really a parser, but rather a program that scans for you and look for info around you. It's like a widescan ability and you can see where hunts are, is from what I heard. I know FFXI had something similar in terms of scanning and could even teleport there direcently, but I don't think anyone is that stupid doing it in this game, but scanning? Heard soo much about it and was quite annoying finding out people did.

On topic, that however has nothing to do with parser, if anyone want's to use that as a legit reason why parser shouldn't be in game.

[Rawrz]

Damn these votes are so stable. Always 1:3 non vs parser and 2:3 just want a personal. Lol

[Crysten]

I believe the parser issue was genuinely solved up until the point that Yoshi-P decided that Stone, Sky, Sea shouldn't a mandatory thing. It may well prevent new/bad players from feeling pressure and stress to play the game to an acceptable standard, but I don't think he realises just how stressful it can be to play with genuinely awful players in the DF on EU/NA serves.

I may be being far too cynical, but I've come to the conclusion the whole parser debate is completely worthless - bads will always be bads, people will continue to give overly extreme arguments for both sides, and people that genuinely want to use parsers for progression are already using them.

The dead horse has been flogged so much on this topic I'm sure we've had to find another dead horse to replace the original one.

[KaijinRhada]

The dead horse has been flogged so much on this topic I'm sure we've had to find another dead horse to replace the original one.

Nah, the culmination of dead horses has to be turned into glue, no traces of the corpses shall remain! It's like one of the hallmark threads; you have glamour threads, screenshots threads, show off your character threads, and this fills the quota of DPS argument threads.

Joking aside, I find it kind of sad that when people ask me what is a prominent characteristic of the FFXIV general forums would be, DPS meter debates come to mind they happen so often.

[papichulo123]

i dont understand why people would be against this why? makes no sense

[Jynx]

i dont understand why people would be against this why? makes no sense

People have been posting their opinion on the topic for 30 some pages and you don't understand why?

Be a man at least and admit people have real reasons they feel parser do nothing to really add to the game. I don't care much either way but would prefer them to not be included. If I had to give a reason i'd say it's because I would prefer the developers not have be forced to design encounters around DPS meters and Dead Boss Mod style add-ons.

[Shug]

Yes Yes Yes. And DPS minimum requirements to join content.

Not to sound to douchey, but with the dps checks in endgame, they kinda should. If you can't beat SSS for said content, you really have no business going in there cause you will fail.

[Reiryuu]

Do I want a parser? No.
Why? I wouldn't really use it. The attitude and discrimination I hear all the time from my LS mates who participate in the higher end content raids turn me off from them,and when I did participate in them, I saw the attitude there as well from others in PF/DF. It bothers me so I distance myself from it. I don't need a parser for the low-mid tier content that I do participate in.

Do I mind if people have a parser to make themselves better? No, by all means. Have at it. Isn't that why they made SSS?

Do I think that people should have a parser to judge others? No. I think it would make things worse than they already are if SE decides to say, "Now it's OK to discriminate against people based on numbers alone."

I just wish there were a way to find a happy medium between balls crushing and need these numbers NAO!11!! I heard Midas: Savage was better, but... I've just stopped caring about that kind of content. Maybe if I had a group of people who were actually fun to raid with.

[SDaemon]

Not to sound to douchey, but with the dps checks in endgame, they kinda should. If you can't beat SSS for said content, you really have no business going in there cause you will fail.

Chiming in on your comment and touching on Raffounz's. SE could reasonably make it so you need to have cleared SSS to enter certain instances. WoW did it with their Proving Grounds and while neither SSS or the Proving Grounds are really that big of roadblocks its something I suppose for those wanting it.

Touching on what Raffounz said though. There is no feasible way that SE can create a system that prevents players from joining content unless they meet a arbitrary DPS requirement set forth by a PF leader. SE can make SSS a requirement but nothing is stopping players from button mashing once they complete SSS other than the group they are in kicking them from party. (Though in that scenario they're really just trolls at that point) Regardless making SSS required is reasonable and perfectly doable in my mind, but DPS requirements set forth by the system itself is never going to be a reality because other than something like SSS how would the system collect this data? Striking dummy target w/ every queue?

[Shug]

Touching on what Raffounz said though. There is no feasible way that SE can create a system that prevents players from joining content unless they meet a arbitrary DPS requirement set forth by a PF leader. SE can make SSS a requirement but nothing is stopping players from button mashing once they complete SSS other than the group they are in kicking them from party. Regardless making SSS required is reasonable and perfectly doable in my mind, but DPS requirements set forth by the system itself is never going to be a reality.

No matter what, some people are going to be jerks, but if you want to dps check everything, at least give us something legal we can use. I see no harm in allowing it in PF for non-duty finder. And if they put in a parser and say raid wide dps needs to be x, now you at least have a starting point and know everyone is capable of hitting that number.