Would you like an in-game parser?

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

It's not false. People choose to use parsers. They don't have to use them. It's a choice, not a requirement.

Saying "EVERY!!!" top group has used them is just argumentum ad populum.

It also implies so-called "top players" aren't good enough to defeat encounters without add-ons/3rd party tools to help them. You're implying they need a crutch to do so. You're implying that relying on their own skill, knowledge of their given role/job, ability to coordinate and communicate, and learn the mechanics through trial-and-error, isn't enough; they still fall flat. You're saying every (EVERY!!!) top group isn't quite as good as they seem to think, since - according to you - every (EVERY!!!) one of them requires add-ons to clear it.

That's effectively what you're saying.

Not very flattering! I suspect some in the end-game community would take exception to your broad-stroke characterization of them.

That's a ridiculous misinterpretation of what I was saying for your own agenda. It's not a tool that's strictly required for high play, but it does provide information to help you know if a new strategy did improve DPS, a new way you approached something improved DPS, etc. It provides information that is highly useful for high end raiding and top raiders all use it. They don't use it because they strictly need it to clear, they use it because it helps speed progression by confirming strategy changes, ability timings, and if anyone is holding them back.

You mean what the PC players have had the ability to do unofficially, on the down-low. You're talking like parsers have already been officially sanctioned by SE and are considered legit, but just haven't made it to consoles, yet. You're talking like number parsers are something Yoshi-P has officially spoken out in favor of on an official level. He, quite clearly, hasn't. Again, you seem to be arguing from this position of "Well, people are already using them, therefor they're necessary, and everyone should have access to them!", while ignoring all of the facts that clearly run counter to that. Your argument is pure confirmation bias. Unfortunately for you, ignoring readily and easily verifiable facts, however inconvenient they are to your narrative, doesn't make them go away.

I'm not talking like SE sanctions them, I'm talking like they already have widespread use, which is the reality we live in. I'm not arguing "people already have them, so they're necessary", another gross misinterpretation. I'm arguing that this sudden mass of harassment people claim will happen in their official inclusion either won't exist or will be so small it's hardly noticeable (and will die down after the initial deployment anyway). You don't have facts in the other direction. Just because it's happened in other MMOs (which to my knowledge is debatable on if they even had negative impacts) doesn't mean it'll happen in this one. It's a different community and a different GM staff. Harassment is still harassment and is reportable whether parsers are official or not.

I love this attitude. It boils down to: "Jerks will be jerks regardless, so what's the difference if we give them one more way to do so, eh?"

Of course, in your case, "... as long as I get what I want!" is appended to the end of that statement.

I mean, after all, as long as you get what you want (an official parser), then hey, you'll just accept it as a necessary side-effect, right? Let others deal with it. You, and/or others in your camp will be too busy obsessing over others' parser numbers to see who the "bads" are to care!

It's also plainly hypocritical. You people are crying foul about not having something the game has never officially supported, and that you do not need to clear content (unless, again, you're not actually as good as you want to think), and consider it some great injustice. Yet you turn around and are basically "pfft.. whatever. Others will work it out" about the fact that the inclusion of said thing would empower people to become even bigger ass-hats than they already are to people who are just trying to enjoy playing the damn game.

Your priorities are backwards.

Nowhere do I imply "as long as I get what I want". You're really enjoying putting words in my mouth. You keep saying it'll make people bigger asshats, but that doesn't change that it's both A) still reportable, and B) usually the people who are doing bad attacking people. Again, it's something that, while not officially supported, is widespread in it's use and SE does turn a blind eye to it. I'm not crying foul, I wasn't even upset. I simply put in my opinion, but you're the one blowing up here.

To the rest of your post:

Yes, everyone wants to play the game how they want, and while it's not promised to us, it is quite widespread in use. Maybe I want to play the game by having basic information on my performance available to me to that I can help improve myself. People will use it as a tool for abuse, absolutely, but the argument here is that those people are already being abusive using things other than the parser, having a parser just moves them from abusing you one way to abusing you in another. In the end, there's literally no difference, except parser usage will actually be able to prevent those morons who think they're the greatest and are actually pretty bad.

Finally, stop putting words in my mouth. You're just as bad as those abusers you're afraid of.