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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    If you aren't interested in the hardest content you simply don't do them. People judge those who who do but not pulling enough weight.
    Player standards vary a lot with this. So do game mechanics. either the gms have to review the intrcacies of each case(which would involve more than what the combat log provides) or it gets open to a very wide interpretation by the players that can affect a lot of unintended targets.

    and don't say those attitudes would stay in savage and ex trial, it can and does roll downhill and has since the game started.
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Player standards vary a lot with this. So do game mechanics. either the gms have to review the intrcacies of each case(which would involve more than what the combat log provides) or it gets open to a very wide interpretation by the players that can affect a lot of unintended targets.

    and don't say those attitudes would stay in savage and ex trial, it can and does roll downhill and has since the game started.
    2 types of standar.
    1: Being one of the first ones to beat content, know how and when to dps, analyze fight to make sure you have things in details.
    2: Just being good enough, don't need to be the top to do that

    Problem is, many aren't ''good'' enough. They either need to take advice and if they don't put a parser in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    2 types of standar.
    1: Being one of the first ones to beat content, know how and when to dps, analyze fight to make sure you have things in details.
    2: Just being good enough, don't need to be the top to do that

    Problem is, many aren't ''good'' enough. They either need to take advice and if they don't put a parser in game.
    They are in the instance, that's more than enough for them to clear it. the rest is imposing and forcing people under a standard that the game itself does not hold for certain content.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 05-11-2016 at 02:24 AM.

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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Player standards vary a lot with this. So do game mechanics. either the gms have to review the intrcacies of each case(which would involve more than what the combat log provides) or it gets open to a very wide interpretation by the players that can affect a lot of unintended targets.

    and don't say those attitudes would stay in savage and ex trial, it can and does roll downhill and has since the game started.
    If the attitude gets outside of Savage and EX Trials, report it. People who can't keep their entitlement in check outside of the scenarios where parsing can be a useful tool need to get their crap in order. If getting their crap in order includes them getting (temp) banned, so be it.

    Unfortunately, regardless of a parser being officially implemented or not, these types of individuals will always exist and should be dealt with accordingly.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 05-11-2016 at 02:33 AM. Reason: clarity