Would you like an in-game parser?

[Rawrz]

Seems to me the playerbase has done just fine without a Parser all this time. After all, every new dungeon, quest, trial, etc introduced - whether normal, hard, or savage, has been cleared, has it not?

Seems to me people are doing just fine without parsers to tell them what they already know - that they're doing sufficient output, and dancing to the mechanics sufficiently to defeat the content. But that's not enough. There's gotta be NUMBERS!

Stopped reading after this. One requirement of a raid group is someone who parses, when you put that static together. Someone is parsing. Give me a world first or a world tenth that didn't use one. Hint: you won't find one.

[ToasterMan]

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Someone give her a medal, I couldn't have said any of this better myself. Like I said before, Raiders can get very nasty. One of the reasons I quit was because I wasn't going to put up with that garbage anymore.

[Seraphix2407]

Seems to me people are doing just fine without parsers to tell them what they already know - that they're doing sufficient output, and dancing to the mechanics sufficiently to defeat the content. But that's not enough. There's gotta be NUMBERS!

No. Just no. This isn't just about numbers. You put a guy in a fight where BLM's for example or BRD/MCH has to move alot, they wouldn't need to move for jack shit on SSS. Put them in a fight like sephirot, thordan, midas savage etc, you will see it will ring another tone.
Example, a mnk can do insane dps on a stupid dummy, once they in a fight it will be different, with mechanics. Numbers only? What about your dps is low as 900 in a fight, then you suddenly want to use a parser or anyone else, they see it and they will probably think: Damn, this dps is low. How do I improve it? Well first, did he beat the dummy? Yes, did he do the mechanics on it? No. So this is where the parser is going to be the real deal, you look at it, find out what you doing wrong, fix it and voila you have increased the dps. There are fights you wanna hold your cds or even use them right away. It's all different from fight to fight. So numbers only? Nope.

Someone give her a medal, I couldn't have said any of this better myself. Like I said before, Raiders can get very nasty. One of the reasons I quit was because I wasn't going to put up with that garbage anymore.

Yes it sucks you been through some nasty people. But we all have, in some sort of form. I'm all up for teaching people their rotations or improve their skills if they are willing to listen to, oh hey! I have met those people, and guess what? They come to me and they wanna hug the living shit out of me because I made them get better? That feeling is amazing. But you know what made me stay away from helping people for a while? Those who refused to listen to advice and tells me to fuck off. So those who refuses gets nasty as well

It all comes down to the same thing, if you're going into something in a particular role, you have to fulfill that role.

Holy... Okay this post has to be one of the best and THE most simpliest post on this forum. DPS job is to yes... DO DPS. Damage!!!!!! If you can't forfill that role, you have to either change or simply take advice from players. As this guy mention, tanks and healers gets easily screwed over, while a dps can afk for 10000 years in 24 man raid and still clear it. I know its faceroll content but how about when tanks lose aggro or healers doesn't heal? So sir, thank you for this post.

[Canadane]

And to those saying "no no.... that totes won't be abused in FFXIV. It's all for the good of the players!" - you're either very new to MMOs, or you're a liar. Straight up.

I don't think anyone is saying that.
What we are saying is, if someone is going to "abuse you" over it, actually take the feedback, don't just put up a wall and not improve yourself because someone was a mean jerkface to you one afternoon.

[ToasterMan]

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Oh don't get me wrong I know a lot of the raiders aren't like that and other people get nasty too, it's the internet after all. It's just I used to see it all the time with the raiders and not so much from the other side. But hey, everyone's experience is different.

[Seraphix2407]

Oh don't get me wrong I know a lot of the raiders aren't like that and other people get nasty too, it's the internet after all. It's just I used to see it all the time with the raiders and not so much from the other side. But hey, everyone's experience is different.

I raid, but I also spend soo much time helping others. I can stay for as long people get better. Example today I was helping new people in midas 1 savage, fun because people got bettter. However the dps wasn't sky rocket high and I didn't mind either way as it was just as perfect for the raid and besides when you are new in a fight you can't expect to be top on dps, since you have to adjust to your movements, dps and when to cd and when not to. However, I know assholes comes by and I wont lie, I've been pissed off at people for not doing what they are supose to do, either it's not good enough dps or ignoring mechanics, even when I tell them in a nice way. Did I outrage for nothing? Possibly but then again I'm so tired of watching out for peoples feelings because some one simply tell them in a nice way they can improve. How else you gonna improve? Have people ignore the problem then you gonna be worse by the time?Accept people trying to help, even if some of them can be assholes, still try. If you werent ''bad'' after all, no one would say anything, am I right?:P And don't worry I know what you mean and I agree with you too.

[Remus]

I would love a group parser. People throw the abuse card but I just find it silly in my opinion. If someone by any chance says your not doing enough damage instead of having a fit and complaining about abuse why not just get better? It's really not hard to be good at a job there are plenty of guides on this forum detailing what you should do but people act like it's so much effort to just read. If you get better you won't get abused by toxic people logic I know its hard to understand. I guess this is the result of SE creating so much faceroll content outside of savage that people don't need to get better and when something finally comes which tests people skill just a bit people can't do it some reason.

[Wegente]

Being against the introduction of a DPS meter in the game is like saying "We shouldn't have knives or any potentially harmful object in our houses because the children might get hurt".

The parents (or the GMs in this case) just have to be careful and watch over their children so that nothing bad happens (which means, people that would use the DPS meter to insult/mock players who aren't performing that well should get reported and harshly punished by the GMs).

[Xlantaa]

Being against the introduction of a DPS meter in the game is like saying "We shouldn't have knives or any potentially harmful object in our houses because the children might get hurt".

The parents (or the GMs in this case) just have to be careful and watch over their children so that nothing bad happens (which means, people that would use the DPS meter to insult/mock players who aren't performing that well should get reported and harshly punished by the GMs).

That's the problem. GM probably won't care and won't do anything. They will say "different opinions" and nothing happends. And we will have casual players who cannot run a single dungeng because they can get a pro-stupid-elitist-douchebag obsesed with DPS who is complaing all the fucking run about his DPS and finnaly vote kicked. And this happends more than people thinks.

One of the ways to protect this players now is avoid the use of "numbers" and be a reportable thing. Adding an in-game parse will make it official tool so valid to use in game and talk about it, and like vote kick, the "different opinion" argument comes and we will have a lot of injustified kicks and that shit more than ever. But this time, we cannot stop them becase "its a official tool" and can be use freely, even to discard/discriminate people or even kick them from dungeons, which are casual content. Now you can report people for parse you and give you numbers, it is considered as harassment and cheating. With a official parse, that won't be possible, because is a ingame feature, valid to use as argument.


I, and probably msot of the players, don't want that MMO.

[Waliel]

At this point I'd just like to see some kind of parser implemented for a couple of weeks just to see if the community would really implode on itself.