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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Alternatively, one can interpret the data to say that very few people are actually opposed to a parser some capacity.
    No the issue isn't parsers, it's group parsers. Spin it the way you like but the PRO GROUP PARSER crowd didn't win this one. I think it's been pretty clear in threads on this forum that those by far and large opposed to parsers don't want group ones and this poll at least CLEARLY SHOWS THAT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No the issue isn't parsers, it's group parsers. Spin it the way you like but the PRO GROUP PARSER crowd didn't win this one. I think it's been pretty clear in threads on this forum that those by far and large opposed to parsers don't want group ones and this poll at least CLEARLY SHOWS THAT.
    Yes, there are semantics involved but the point you're replying to is the fact that I'm surprised that despite the amount of negativity there is towards parsers, there isn't that much opposition to actually including one (of any make *key context here*) which was the point of my comment when I made that post.

    There is a much smaller gap between those who want a personal parser versus a group parser which pointed out rightfully, but I wasn't aiming towards that discussion with my comment.

    Also, I don't know about you, but but group parser is still ahead of the combine "No" and "Yes, Personal Parser" vote by 1.2%. It's a slim margin but in a Democracy that's still getting the confidence of the people who you are polling via majority.

    EDIT - You also don't know how many people in the voting are actually voting for both because they don't care about which tool it is as long as they get the tool. This would lower the amount of people who are "opposed" to having a group parser by an unspecified amount since they just want to use a tool in general (in contrast, it would also lower the amount of support of those who only want a group parser as well)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Also, I don't know about you, but but group parser is still ahead of the combine "No" and "Yes, Personal Parser" vote by 1.2%. It's a slim margin but in a Democracy that's still getting the confidence of the people who you are polling via majority.
    This isn't an election. It was a poll trying to guage the sentiments of the forum community relative to parsers. If you think that SE is going to implement a group parser with approximately half the community opposed to them, dream on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    This isn't an election. It was a poll trying to guage the sentiments of the forum community relative to parsers. If you think that SE is going to implement a group parser with approximately half the community opposed to them, dream on.
    Your opinion doesn't count as half the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickXRolled View Post
    Your opinion doesn't count as half the community.
    We're talking about the poll Rick. I have an opinion yes just like you do. That's what makes the world go around, doesn't it. The poll clearly shows that group parsers aren't wanted here on the forum by approximately half the people who responded in this thread. That's NOT my opinion. Sorry if that doesn't tickle your fancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    This isn't an election. It was a poll trying to guage the sentiments of the forum community relative to parsers. If you think that SE is going to implement a group parser with approximately half the community opposed to them, dream on.
    I think you're missing my point entirely so, let me try to steer this in a different avenue. This is how I'm interpreting our discussion ATM.

    My initial comment was the community would like to see any parser implemented and they don't care which type of parser it is (group or personal).
    Your comment was the community doesn't want a group parser.

    Upon re-reading the thread / data a little your comment isn't wrong. In the same token, my comment isn't wrong either. We're just having this discussion because we're pretty much misinterpreting the point the other person is trying to make.

    To make it clear, while I did vote only for a Group Parser, I am not opposed to a personal parser being implemented either because players should have the tools to gauge their performance.

    In the exact same token, there are definitely people who have voted for a personal parser that are not opposed to a group parser because they don't care if their numbers are seen or not seen as long as they have the tool readily available.
    ^ This is important because without knowing this context, we don't know how many people are actually opposed to a group parser or not. Just because someone votes for "Yes, Personal Parser" doesn't meant they oppose "Yes, Group Parser" and viceversa.

    I feel your comment is skewed in bias because you're considering the data without all the context associated with it and almost feels like another option needs to be added just to see how much of the pro parser crowd are either
    1. Please, only Personal Parser due to abuse reasons
    2. Please, just give me a tool to use so I can gauge my performance

    Shame we can't really add that option now but I hope you understand my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    To make it clear, while I did vote only for a Group Parser, I am not opposed to a personal parser being implemented either because players should have the tools to gauge their performance.
    Let me make my position clear too, I would not be opposed to a personal parser either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Let me make my position clear too, I would not be opposed to a personal parser either.
    I can already determine this based on the points you've made in your previous comments.

    Therefore you are in agreement with my initial comment - the community would like to see a parser implemented. However, the type of parser is still up to debate as per our discussion chain thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I can already determine this based on the points you've made in your previous comments.

    Therefore you are in agreement with my initial comment - the community would like to see a parser implemented. However, the type of parser is still up to debate as per our discussion chain thus far.
    Here is a concern with a private parser, it needs to be in a way that players cannot force it into being a public parser, wouldn't it? its kinda why SSS ended up the ways it is(as questionable as it is for prepping someone)
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