Would you like an in-game parser?

[Xlantaa]

Idea: Create a in game DPS meter to allow see all party members DPS. Then, add a option in the character configuration window saying: "Allow other member of the party see my DPS" If you marked it, others can se it, if you unmarked it, it is private and others cannot see your DPS.

If people start abuse the DPS meter, more people will deactivate it. If people does not abuse, probably more people will activate it. I think this can work.

[Zojha]

If people start abuse the DPS meter, more people will deactivate it. If people does not abuse, probably more people will activate it. I think this can work.

The most likely thing to happen is for people to ask the people who have it disabled to activate it and quietly issue a vote-kick if they don't (Or, just leave the group themselves - the penalty for doing so is negligible). Why? Because the underlying assumption is that everyone who hides it is a bad player. I don't think we'd have this discussion if "opt-out" was considered an acceptable solution, because one of the motivations for wanting a parser is to find 'bad apples' and remove them.

[Laerune]

The most likelything to happen is for people to ask the people who have it disabled to activate it and quietly issue a vote-kick if they don't (Or, just leave the group themselves - the penalty for doing so is negligible). Why? Because the underlying assumption is that everyone who hides it is a bad player. I don't think we'd have this discussion if "opt-out" was considered an acceptable solution, because one of the motivations for wanting a parser is to find 'bad apples' and remove them.

I was starting to like Xlantaa"s suggestion, untill I read your post and I have to agree 100% with you. If someone disables their dps meter, the first thing players will think is: " This player is a scrub and needs to git gud". I know that if there was a dps meter and we failed to kill a boss and one player disabled their dps meter and refused to activate their meter, the first thing I would do is suspect that this player is the one ruining our run and kick him or her out.

Opt-out will only will only work for features where players do not have a control over you. An example: If there is open-world PvP and you disable the PK mode, you can play without being PKed, nobodies action can affect you, but if you disable your dps meter and refuse to turn it back on, you will be kicked, because the group has the power (ability to kick you ) to control you.

[Xlantaa]

The most likely thing to happen is for people to ask the people who have it disabled to activate it and quietly issue a vote-kick if they don't (Or, just leave the group themselves - the penalty for doing so is negligible). Why? Because the underlying assumption is that everyone who hides it is a bad player. I don't think we'd have this discussion if "opt-out" was considered an acceptable solution, because one of the motivations for wanting a parser is to find 'bad apples' and remove them.

Yeah, I know that. People thinks they are in the position to judge who must play the game and who not. I do not undestand this obsesion with DPS for low level content.



Raid parties statics usually are friends or are more aware what they should do, there is no problems here normally. But extend this into the normal casual content is just stupid. "Hey BLm, your DPS is 1500, should be 1700 for you item level, get out of this dungeon noob". People really WANT that? I know, "You are assuming everyone wil ldo this" No, I'm not, but there will be player who will do it, and this ones can cause problems to people who only want play for a while and enjoy the run isntead of compiting who have the bigger hit.