Would you like an in-game parser?

[Seraphix2407]

There's my honest reply.

And I'm glad you are honest about it. My bad giving myself ideas how you are as a player, but don't get me wrong when I say this, but ''usually'' when people wrote down what you did, they usually give a rats ass about other players by still playing on a lower level without even trying. Now about the parser, I wish there was one on ps4/pc official, maybe a closed one so you can see your own dps and improve, that's what most people do and it helps alot. I made a few people start and it helps them alot. However what if some people don't wanna try get better? The problem will remain with or without parsers, the only good thing making one official is where people who are on consoles have a chance to use it, instead of asking a pc player all the time? Or simply because many are afraid using a parser and then they really wanna use one thats avaible?

As for people using it for the opposite purpose, talking people down, I do agree there, I've seen it happen and it still happens. I mentioned this as well and that's a big problem. I also stated there are peopel who are more than willing to get better but there are also people who simply tells you to ''fuck off'' because it's how they play and it suits them. Yes they have the right to play however they want, but if they are playing in groups, that sort of attitude doesn't help at all, and I've seen that much as those prics who call out bad dps looking at their parser, hell might even seen those bad people having a shit fit more than those prics calling out peoples numbers just to be an ass.

And my bad taking decision on what type of player you are or not.

Edit: Since you mentioned people feeling bad or not, yes I've met them and I also reached my hand out and helped them on rotation or ask people who know the class better than me. Most of the time people are willing to listen and care to try, which puts a smile on my face, but then I honestly have recived more people saying they don't need help and it fits the way they play. People wonder why they never get clears or simply no one wants to deal with them. Is that my responsible or other players to teach those players to get better? Not really, but can we help them out if they are more than willing to? yes of course, but then you have the issue of those who aren't, so even with a parser in game you will still have those people but there is a great and I know for sure there are alot of people who wants to have a parser to look at. I might be wrong, but most people I talked to really wants and those are ps4 players and pc players as well.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

And I'm glad you are honest about it. My bad giving myself ideas how you are as a player, but don't get me wrong when I say this, but ''usually'' when people wrote down what you did, they usually give a rats ass about other players by still playing on a lower level without even trying. Now about the parser, I wish there was one on ps4/pc official, maybe a closed one so you can see your own dps and improve, that's what most people do and it helps alot. I made a few people start and it helps them alot. However what if some people don't wanna try get better? The problem will remain with or without parsers, the only good thing making one official is where people who are on consoles have a chance to use it, instead of asking a pc player all the time? Or simply because many are afraid using a parser and then they really wanna use one thats available?

As for people using it for the opposite purpose, talking people down, I do agree there, I've seen it happen and it still happens. I mentioned this as well and that's a big problem. I also stated there are peopel who are more than willing to get better but there are also people who simply tells you to ''fuck off'' because it's how they play and it suits them. Yes they have the right to play however they want, but if they are playing in groups, that sort of attitude doesn't help at all, and I've seen that much as those prics who call out bad dps looking at their parser, hell might even seen those bad people having a shit fit more than those prics calling out peoples numbers just to be an ass.

And my bad taking decision on what type of player you are or not.

I appreciate the acknowledgement.

As I mentioned prior to your post, while leery, I would not be opposed to a personal (self only) parser that had no "announce to chat" option. Such a thing could be used by players for personal betterment without clogging chat with unnecessary chatter. One of the things I dislike about parsers that show you everyone's numbers is that it often turns a "cooperative" situation (a raid for instance), into a "competitive" one (dps trying to one up each other). And while some amount of competition can be healthy it often leads to players making reckless decisions for the betterment of their personal numbers at the cost of the overall group's performance. I dislike chat announcements because you inevitably end up with:

The "star of the show!" player who asks "anyone have meters?" only when they've topped them and they clearly have their own but want someone other than themselves to post it to chat.

The ever classic "elitist jerk" player who tells those who do poorly just how bad they are and that they should just quit the game cause there's no hope for them to be anything but bad. Never once offering any sort of constructive criticism or advice on how to improve.

These types of behavior are most typically seen in dungeon/small party level content where bleeding edge performance isn't required and some players are still learning about the game. I particularly dislike the second type of player because I don't like seeing players attacked because they might not be the best, in content that doesn't require the best, and contribute no worthwhile feedback to help others improve. It's akin to putting together a group requiring everyone to have an ilvl above 200... for an instance that has a min ilvl requirement of 180 and only drops 195 loot. Which is ridiculous.

Heck even in our pleasant community we have bad apples. I primarily heal as SCH (and lately WHM) in this game. I had a Snowcloak run where the tank was obviously not confident in his tanking ability. He kept his pulls small and sometimes lost aggro on a mob which came to me but he was quick to pick them back up. While this run wasn't the fastest I've had, there were no wipes and no deaths. At the end of the run the BLM in the party says in chat something along the lines of "You should give up tanking you're horrible at it." and leaves the dungeon. THAT was his "contribution". I can only imagine what he'd say to other dps if he had meters to see "how much better he is than them". That's what I want to avoid in ffxiv.

[Seraphix2407]

That's what I want to avoid in ffxiv.

I agree alot of what you said, so no doubt we are somewhat on the same page. As you mentioned people will be competive but so much the chat will be spammed it? Doubt it. It can happen but not much as you say.
And about that snowcloak run I totally agree. I've had my share of runs where the runs are insanly slow but I don't care as I see they are either new or never played that class, however not so long ago, few weeks ago when I first got my whm to 60, I was lvling in aery and I was dpsing the adds to make the run faster, the tank lets me die because he cant hold aggro againts my holy. Keep in mind he never died in that run. I know this is nothing about parsing or dps meter, but to respond to what you said, no you don't need to be the worlds best to play a dungeon, I'm aware there are new players or people who simply aren't as used to the class they are playing. But when you have mulitply of 60's and then have a hard time holding aggro? I somehow expect people to play somewhat good or decent when they been doing the same thing for ages. Isn't why we play games? Being better is fun and beating stuff in it is amazing? Or is that spirit gone for most players. Yes I do know people are having fun in their own way and how they beat content. But when they come and say they can't beat it and then are aware they are the bad grass that's another story. I will keep it simple so sorry for the long reply but yes I do agree with what you said.