Would you like an in-game parser?

[pushin_tin]

I challenge you all to provide a single good argument against a personal meter that only the player him/herself can see.

[Lemuel81]

NO. This game wasnt made for dps parser thing anyways. People will abuse it and harass around. Not cool

yet there are so many tight dps checks? And if people will not be harassed for a parser they WILL be harassed in any other way

[AlphaFox]

People are always going to find way to try and kick or complain about people, it just happens. From the Blackmage who is just learning or only uses Ice to the Healer who just heals instead of DPSing. A parser will help those who really wish to try (and if its a self parser then no worry), we have many people who are already using parsers and silently judging you every run, they just don't say it. Will people get more vocal or try to be rude? Only the ones who would find reasons to complain or kick you to begin with but if people see you trying I would hope common sense will tell them to shut up rather than get snarky and say "Why arn't you hitting more!?! I can do __ dps".

Granted I know I would get the eye twitch going if I could see DPS of everyone and saw the healer constantly at 0.

[Deathgiver]

There's this game I play, where I read the parser threads and then look up the players most vocally for and against parsing on fflogs. You'd never guess where the people against usually fall on the dps scale :þ

[Kallera]

There's this game I play, where I read the parser threads and then look up the players most vocally for and against parsing on fflogs. You'd never guess where the people against usually fall on the dps scale :þ

People do not want to be ostracized for their playing, regardless of how good they are or wether you think they "deserve it".

[Deathgiver]

People do not want to be ostracized for their playing, regardless of how good they are or wether you think they "deserve it".

Let me be clear, I run roulette with 2 other fc mates all the time, and someone almost always has a parser up. Do we use the info to tell people that they suck? No. We get a laugh out of the real bads, and we use the info amongst ourselves to compete or better our own game play. The people most vocally against parsing are usually those who have 0 interest in not only bettering themselves, but even putting in the effort it would take to play Mario Kart. If those numbers were in their faces maybe they would engage in their roles more.

[Ghishlain]

I challenge you all to provide a single good argument against a personal meter that only the player him/herself can see.

As an AST, I wouldn't know who to give Arrow or Balance if I can't see the DPS of my party members.

[MaeIsMean]

Let me be clear, I run roulette with 2 other fc mates all the time, and someone almost always has a parser up. Do we use the info to tell people that they suck? No. We get a laugh out of the real bads, and we use the info amongst ourselves to compete or better our own game play. The people most vocally against parsing are usually those who have 0 interest in not only bettering themselves, but even putting in the effort it would take to play Mario Kart. If those numbers were in their faces maybe they would engage in their roles more.

How about instead of laughing at them, you ask someone who is doing really awful if they would like help fine tuning their rotation? Instead of assuming they "have 0 interest in not only bettering themselves", wouldn't it be better to assume they are new, don't know where to research how to improve their dps, or that something came up IRL that is interfering with their ability to play at their best? I guess you'd rather just "get a laugh out of the real bads."

P.S. i support a personal parser. I'd like to see if changes I make to my gear or rotations are positive changes or not. I don't care to see anyone elses numbers, and don't really care if other people see mine.

[Kyuuen]

As long as it's something only you can see and it reveals nothing about another player, nor has a report function to beat people over the head with, I have no problem with there being one. But if even so much as one of those are possible, absolutely not.

[Deathgiver]

How about instead of laughing at them, you ask someone who is doing really awful if they would like help fine tuning their rotation?

We do offer advice... My core group of friends in the game all do tons of teaching parties and offer advice wherever we can. The people I refer to as real bads are the ones who can't even be arsed to press a button every 2.5 seconds, and no amount of advice is going to fix lazy. I'm talking about the i230 geared DPS jobs pulling less than 500 dps. Honestly, I'm happy if someone hits 800 dps on a boss, at least they're putting in some effort, and not just expecting someone to carry them while they're semi-afk.