Would you like an in-game parser?

[Johaandr]

NO. This game wasnt made for dps parser thing anyways. People will abuse it and harass around. Not cool

[Lambdafish]

NO. This game wasnt made for dps parser thing anyways. People will abuse it and harass around. Not cool

*cough* gordias *cough* bismark *cough* sorry, I had something stuck in my throat.

[Johaandr]

*cough* gordias *cough* bismark *cough* sorry, I had something stuck in my throat.

So its alright to tell em? No. If somebody told me my dps suck then i would be mad and sad and less motivated to play the game cuse of the stupid parsers of theirs.

I bet you were newbeginner too and had no experience.. Unless you took ur time watching some guides in yt.
They gain experience by doing it tho. Like i did loool. Oft.

[Ragnorak]

So its alright to tell em? No. If somebody told me my dps suck then i would be mad and sad and less motivated to play the game cuse of the stupid parsers of theirs.

I bet you were newbeginner too and had no experience.. Unless you took ur time watching some guides in yt.
They gain experience by doing it tho. Like i did loool. Oft.

if thats the case wouldnt it be easier instead of getting mad and sad and quitting to idk take 10m research your rotation and practice it on a dummy? idk crazy idea

[Ashkendor]

if thats the case wouldnt it be easier instead of getting mad and sad and quitting to idk take 10m research your rotation and practice it on a dummy? idk crazy idea

Right? I'll never understand that attitude. "Wahhh! Someone told me my DPS is bad so I quit!" ... errr how about you just get better? Go check the official forums or do a google search to find a guide on your class, read up, and practice? o.O

I'm not the best Monk, but I've been practicing and boy does the improvement show. ^^

[Ragnorak]

Right? I'll never understand that attitude. "Wahhh! Someone told me my DPS is bad so I quit!" ... errr how about you just get better? Go check the official forums or do a google search to find a guide on your class, read up, and practice? o.O

I'm not the best Monk, but I've been practicing and boy does the improvement show. ^^

ive come to the conclusion asking people to take a few minutes to better themselves is asking far too much. and if you do ask them to do so you are a criminal

[Nalien]

Right? I'll never understand that attitude. "Wahhh! Someone told me my DPS is bad so I quit!" ... errr how about you just get better? Go check the official forums or do a google search to find a guide on your class, read up, and practice? o.O

What's really odd is that they don't even need to be told their DPS sucks... A personal parser could let you walk out with a number, nobody else would know that number and it would be meaningless in isolation... It would satisfy a lot of people who want a parser, because they can talk and compare, while people who don't care can just continue to plug their ears and ignore empirical evidence that they're doing their rotation "wrong"*... Those of us who want to improve would have better tools to do so, while those who prefer to remain ignorant... Continue to remain ignorant...

Perhaps the only issue is when people ask for proof to join statics, but I somehow doubt the people who'd hate a parser are getting far in that regard anyway, and if they are... They're probably worrying over nothing...

*Perhaps "wrong" is the wrong word, if someone wants to play Ice Mage, that's their right. I have no issue with them doing that, I just have issue with carrying them. People are welcome to play the game however they want, but if you're going to play snakes and ladders differently to how I play it? Don't expect me to want to play with you... A reasonably optimized rotation is what most accept and expect, and a parser helps everyone achieve that... If there are people who still don't want to do that, then that's fine... I don't want to watch video guides before jumping into new content, so I don't. I also didn't burden other people by playing blind when everyone expects people to know the mechanics... Ignore the parser the same way I ignore MrHappy if you want to play differently... A personal parser really isn't open to abuse...

[Lemuria]

Those of us who want to improve would have better tools to do so, while those who prefer to remain ignorant... Continue to remain ignorant...

This is exactly why people don't want parsers in-game. This very attitude stinks of "I'm doing everything right, and you're doing it all wrong.". It's basically telling everyone that they need to do every little skill in a very precise order or they're branded as useless. To be honest, it's not a pleasant thought that every single player has to become robotic in their actions to be considered good at their job. It basically robs the game of any flexibility and enjoyment.

It's often not a case of ignorance. Some people may be well aware that their rotations aren't 'optimal', but choose to use a less optimal option because it's more enjoyable for them. Only on very high-end content does DPS really matter, due to the endless DPS check phases. For most fights, no one really cares who hits harder than who as long as the enemy dies. I'd sooner pick the guy who is average but polite, than someone who thinks they're better than everyone else, even if they have rights to that claim.

[Zojha]

errr how about you just get better?

Well, there's a reason most single player games come with a decent variety of difficulty settings. Because a great many people are more prone to not buying a game or quitting than getting better at it if their playstyle is not supported. If people would actually bother to get better rather than quitting, difficulty settings would be just a waste of effort and consequently a rare sight.

Some people simply play to perform, some people play to be engaged and some people play to be entertained, each having vastly different commitment levels - and that's no issue at all in non-MMOs. And in MMOs, this just clashes.

[Jpec07]

Right? I'll never understand that attitude. "Wahhh! Someone told me my DPS is bad so I quit!" ... errr how about you just get better? Go check the official forums or do a google search to find a guide on your class, read up, and practice? o.O

In my experience, it's almost never the feedback on performance that's the problem, but the way in which that feedback is given. There's a world of difference between: "/p omg Joe Averagenoob only did 900 DPS on that fight. What a losernoob. Vote kick and git gud." and "/tell Joe Averagenoob Hey, I noticed your DPS was a little low compared to what I've seen. Would you like some pointers to help you perform better, or a guide to help you better understand your job?"

More often, I've seen parsers lead to the former kind of behavior than the latter.