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  1. #1481
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    RobbieH's Avatar
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    Agin Wildfang
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    I don't understand english? At least I'm not making up someone's argument so i can attack it.
    Attacking? So according to you someone giving their opinion is an attack, you clearly don't know what forums are for, if you can't deal with people being against your opinion you shouldn't bother coming to the forum at all, since you know, the purpose of forums is to that people can give their opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    Let's turn the tables: "toxicity"
    you're telling me ps3 ps4 users aren't able to be toxic? All parser users are assholes? No?? Ok. See how i didn't jump to that conclusion? That's because I'm mature.
    You didn't jump into that conclusion yet you said i'm attacking people which is your vision of me disagreeing with someone, in this case you. Yes you're indeed very mature when you can't take someone else opinion and classify it as an "attack".

    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    I understand your argument about assholes, and based on the things you've said you acknowledge the usefulness of parsers, you just don't want it in the hands of toxic people. So why not give it to us? People can be reported and banned for harassment. Deal with it. As a ps4 user i can be toxic and treat players like shit without a parser.
    People can be reported yes, but how many times are they actually banned? They get warnings before they can actually get banned, meanwhile they already did the damage to the "bad players", if people keep getting moaned at, they'll give up on the game, people don't come here for some random person to tell them how they should play the game.

    Anyway there's no point talking to you, you just reply to whatever you can put an argument on and skip most stuff and then even say i attack people and you are mature while you do those things, i guess mature in your dictionary has a different meaning.
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  2. #1482
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    You don't raid... What makes you think you know how "formulaic and barebones" raiding is if you don't do it. You keep interjecting your un substantiated opinions about end game and the toxicity of the community into a thread that's asking for a tool to assist in people improving. You also seem to equate parsing to botting, when in reality I can accomplish the same thing with a spreadsheet and the chat log, given 30-60 minutes. It's a convenience, and it doesn't automatically make players 1337.
    I don't raid because I don't find predictable fights difficult, nor are the rewards particularly worth the time. Fights that are mapped down perfectly to the gcd with no possible change are neither fun, nor challenging, in my opinion. If it can be mapped out to the tiniest detail, it's formulaic, and if it's formulaic, it's predictable.
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  3. #1483
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I'm not entirely pro or anti parser, but all I'm seeing is that some people believe that a person'should feelings are the most important thing.

    It's a very poor argument to say we shouldn't have something because someone's feelings might get hurt, or that others may abuse it.
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  4. #1484
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Oh my god. Seriously. Stop nitpicking. Attacking ... disagreeing. Who cares. You put words into my mouth. Seriously.

    (Edit) you're right, you weren't attacking my opinion, if you actually understood what i was trying to say, you would realize i was saying you were attacking your own words that you made up. You were "disagreeing" with yourself.
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    Last edited by bardaboo; 11-16-2016 at 08:06 AM.

  5. #1485
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    I still stand by what I said before:
    Personal parse usage:
    - Any dummy (including SSS).
    - Dungeons, trials and raids (Normal and Hard versions).
    This will help people practice, learn and improve (Including PS4/PS3 players)

    Public parse usage:
    - Trials and raid (Extreme and Savage).
    Because DPs check is a thing during these contents. People have the right to know what is going wrong in order to fix it.
    I think that it would be even safer with the new raid system that they are proposing. Personal parser for trials and raids (because dumb people in PF and creator difficulty raids - so PF again), and public parser for "extremely savage" (?) raids (the third tier that they proposed)
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  6. #1486
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    I don't raid because I don't find predictable fights difficult, nor are the rewards particularly worth the time. Fights that are mapped down perfectly to the gcd with no possible change are neither fun, nor challenging, in my opinion. If it can be mapped out to the tiniest detail, it's formulaic, and if it's formulaic, it's predictable.
    Your comments again demonstrate that you have no idea about savage tier raiding. Are there predictable portions to the fights? Absolutely. Are the savage versions less predictable than normal? Absolutely. The majority of people looking for in-game parsers want to have access to improve themselves to a point where they can enter savage, or are already doing savage and just want to get better at their roles. I haven't seen a single response saying "I want a parser so I can kick scrubs in ex roulette."
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  7. #1487
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    Eimian E'da
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    Brynhildr
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    Astrologian Lv 92
    Yes, I would love one built into the game.
    I don't care if it's personal or shows everyone, though everyone is preferred.
    Let me see Damage done, Taken, Healing, Overhealing, everything Recount has.
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  8. #1488
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Here's another alternative then:

    After every "hard" content in the game, display the fight information similar to what PvP has after a clear, time-out OR possibly after every new encounter (AKA wipe). You know, healed, damage done, damage taken, deaths, misses; add in overhealed. I mean, if PvP can have this information, why can't the PvE have it as well? The Feast even has a ranking system that is track-able; they could totally find a way to make a ranking system similar to fflogs. Looking at you PotD.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  9. #1489
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    This game is heavily relying on dps checks, so i dont know any good reasons to not have parsers tbh..

    If you in anykind of content where u fail on a dps check, they devs tell you to get better. So why not tell the player this direclty when many of the players dont get this?
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    Last edited by Kaitoo; 11-20-2016 at 05:38 AM.

  10. #1490
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    Frowny's Avatar
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    I don't raid because I don't find predictable fights difficult, nor are the rewards particularly worth the time. Fights that are mapped down perfectly to the gcd with no possible change are neither fun, nor challenging, in my opinion. If it can be mapped out to the tiniest detail, it's formulaic, and if it's formulaic, it's predictable.
    You'd be surprised how people can still fail scripted events. A9S itself it heavily scripted, A10S seems to have variation from my experience. And the gear is only to push the next tier, min/max or get a head start augmenting.
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