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  1. #1301
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    No, parsers are for elitist players.

    if you want elitism go back to WoW.
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  2. #1302
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigabar View Post
    Yes to parsers.

    Yes to personal parsers - always - that can be toggled in your config.

    Yes to party parsers in premade groups (PF) - Make it a option like unsync.

    No to party parsers in DF, since "playstyles" and griefing potential.


    This is my idea also. Parsers are useful, but I do agree that it has no use in the Duty finder or dungeons, levelling/midcore content, ... It does has its use for personal usage so you know where you can improve/change and on the latest ex primal,savage, ...

    Saying this, there are already "Agreeable Controlled Tactical" ways of doing this at the moment at your own leisure, where in my knowledge SE just turns a blind eye as long as it is done with no grief for others and as a personal/own group way. The problem I think is more the ones on the PS.
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    Last edited by Jib; 11-11-2016 at 09:58 PM.

  3. #1303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha View Post
    No, parsers are for elitist players.

    if you want elitism go back to WoW.
    I'm not elitist though and didn't come from WoW. I just want to do better damage in the game and improve how I play. Seeing the numbers gives good feedback. PC users i've known have improved lots due to a parser.
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  4. #1304
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    May I ask what is the difference between "Yes, I would like an in game parser." and "Yes, but I would only like a personal in game parser."?
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    @Yeol

    Normally parsers can show what you are doing but also your party. I think what ppl are saying is they are ok with something that showns only your performance, for example: your dps number, the abilities you use individually with its crits and damage amongst other useful stat, for healers they hps or even shielding in some games, for tanks their damage and emnity, some parsers in some games can even give warnings of abilities that are to come like tank busters, when to swap...etc .... but you dont see anyone elses.
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    Last edited by Jib; 11-11-2016 at 08:18 PM.

  6. #1306
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha View Post
    No, parsers are for elitist players.

    if you want elitism go back to WoW.
    Parsing itself has nothing to do with elitism, I consider myself a very casual player but I am passionate about playing my jobs properly.
    My reason for wanting a parser, like the majority of parsing players, is not to rub my results into other's faces or tell them how bad they are, but to measure myself with players that have comparable stats.
    I just want to know if I'm doing a good job, and that doesn't end at "We won and didn't die".
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    Last edited by Shirai; 11-11-2016 at 09:12 PM.
    Felis catus

  7. #1307
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    May I ask what is the difference between "Yes, I would like an in game parser." and "Yes, but I would only like a personal in game parser."?
    Personal Parser: only you can see your own numbers.
    Normal Parser: you see the numbers of all party members.
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  8. #1308
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    Xiao Tianfeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha View Post
    No, parsers are for elitist players.

    if you want elitism go back to WoW.
    this is the worst meme. posting your parses to fflogs and circlejerking over them is for elitists, parsing in general is not
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  9. #1309
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    I'm not against the idea, especially if it could be something that we'd be able to intentionally opt in for during raid finder practice/learning parties. But a concern I'd have even with even just personal parsers is that it might lead to an increase of people playing recklessly in order to increase their numbers. Better parses don't always necessarily equate better play. Like Summoners who spam Ruin III outside of dreadwyrm trance when there's no real need for any other kind of dps surge in the current fight (like the party struggling to meet a DPS check). Playing like that is a good way to be useless if something urgent does pop up and can also take the aggro from the tank. But people already do that to get placed higher on the aggro table so it's probably a moot point.
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  10. #1310
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    @Jib @cynical_baby
    Thanks for clarifying ^^
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