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  1. #1151
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
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    To add to your point, it doesn't come up too often but I hear people complain about BRD's DPS being too low, and people might not realise where it's usefulness comes from. Imagine if you could see the damage boost from foe, the thing about BRD, and support classes in general is that a lot of the DPS is indirect in the form of buffs. More relevantly to myself is that until I started playing WAR properly and talking about it, the slashing debuff meant nothing to me, and for WAR's and NIN, they may not fully understand how much of a DPS increase it is for not only themselves, but other party members.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 06-02-2016 at 01:49 AM.

  2. #1152
    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    To add to your point, it doesn't come up too often but I hear people complain about BRD's DPS being too low, and people might not realise where it's usefulness comes from. Imagine if you could see the damage boost from foe, the thing about BRD, and support classes in general is that a lot of the DPS is indirect in the form of buffs. More relevantly to myself is that until I started playing WAR properly and talking about it, the slashing debuff meant nothing to me, and for WAR's and NIN, they may not fully understand how much of a DPS increase it is for not only themselves, but other party members.
    aaaannddddd to add to what you are saying, having group parsers may help people realize that the skill of the player is often >>> the job. I saw so many MCH (and some BRD) shafted from Bismark EX parties because their DPS was too low. Meanwhile, their DPS was one of the top ones and the MNK/BLM (or w/e) had the lowest DPS. People just assume, "Oh, we're missing a DPS check, it must be because we have this one job SE hates, and not because the BLM doesn't know how to use Enochian yet."
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  3. #1153
    Player Kusanagi7's Avatar
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    Primal Ishtar
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    while i might not use it having a personal parser there for me to use sounds good to me as a ps4 player hope that makes sense
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  4. #1154
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    Seraphix2407's Avatar
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Agree with you Seraphix, one thing to note though is that healer and tank accountability is often capped more than a DPS. So for example, in an expert roulette boss, a tank buster will come that really only hits the tank for 75% of their HP. They can use a CD and I can shield them making it do less, but even then the tank won't die if I miss it. After we do our tank buster and shielding, there isn't really more mitigation we can do. Conversely, a DPS can meet a DPS check, but even once they have done that they can actually push more DPS. That is a key difference I think.
    Yes they can always push. Don't forget, many dps out there can do a fight and still kill shit, but doesn't mean they even did what they should been at or pushed over that limit.
    Examples:
    DPS 1 2 and 3 do 1300-1500 in seph extreme, while last one does 950. Okay so they kill it, but keep in mind you put that 950 dps guy in a group where dps do similar damage, which will cause to enrage mostlikely. If everyone tried to push hard, there would mostlikely be less enrage groups as well, because then everyone would been on the same page. It's bad luck ending up in a group where 4 dps doesn't do that much and farm groups turn into enrage parties. DPS gets away more than anything, especially the ones who do super low that there are 2-3 in the group who does so good that they could probably do it without that last dps. This happens too often and this is how dps gets a free ride compare to tanks and healers.
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  5. #1155
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    Dalvy's Avatar
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    Ysera Dei-ijla
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Would I like one? Yes , because I need to know the details of what I'm doing in order to improve. I like to see how I'm doing versus the other healers, especially other scholars. I want to know exactly how many times I've landed crit aldo, etc.
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  6. #1156
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Since no one has anything better to do right now...
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  7. #1157
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    Fancyfeast's Avatar
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    Jaxin Belvedere
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Yes, but I would only like a personal in game parser.
    THIS. A personal one viewable only by you.
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  8. #1158
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    Noutaja's Avatar
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    Rebel Soul
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    No, I dont think SE has the ability to compete with the current 3rd party parsers that work wonders, look astounding, fit perfectly with the UI and can be customized to the core. SE is incapable of offering anything to this table. Also the PS3/4 users would still feel envy (or whatever) for having a shait non-editable parser compared to PC users.
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  9. #1159
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    Rita1989's Avatar
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    Nenemi Nemi
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by Noutaja View Post
    No, I dont think SE has the ability to compete with the current 3rd party parsers that work wonders, look astounding, fit perfectly with the UI and can be customized to the core. SE is incapable of offering anything to this table. Also the PS3/4 users would still feel envy (or whatever) for having a shait non-editable parser compared to PC users.
    I am sure ps4 players would welcome any type of parser right now for endgame raids you need to rely on a PC player for it.
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  10. #1160
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    Nicobo's Avatar
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Noutaja View Post
    No, I dont think SE has the ability to compete with the current 3rd party parsers that work wonders, look astounding, fit perfectly with the UI and can be customized to the core. SE is incapable of offering anything to this table. Also the PS3/4 users would still feel envy (or whatever) for having a shait non-editable parser compared to PC users.
    PC users will not feel envy when they play like working on office desk while PS4 users laying on sofa and playing on a 60inch TV.
    And PS4 users will not feel envy for having a shait non-editable parser that still better than no parser. ^^;
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