Would you like an in-game parser?

[SeriouslySalty]

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Look, if someone is so thin skinned that they can't handle criticism over a video game then they probably should not be playing it. The Internet is one of the meanest places that someone can visit. It's a place of anonymity where anyone can say anything, what do you expect? If you can't handle people calling you names on the Internet then don't be on the Internet.

No one that is pro-parser here wants it so they can bully people. Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? This can even be a tool used for mentors to help people with their rotations. At the moment it is hard to see what people are doing wrong but with a parser it would become so much more clear; mentors will be able to help newbies and people who are looking to improve can help themselves.

I'm sorry but the argument of "people are going to bully other who have significantly less DPS than everyone else because they aren't even trying" isn't valid in my eyes.

[Istaru]

A parser would be a great thing for the game. It will encourage lazy players to be more efficient in dungeons/raids/etc if everyone is able to see their D/HPS. If people are scared of being "cyber-bullied", well the mute command exists for a reason.

I disagree. Lazy players don't care if their DPS is terrible. Why? Because they're lazy. Getting better and improving would take work and effort. It could help people who want to grow but have nothing to measure themselves against.

[SeriouslySalty]

I disagree. Lazy players don't care if their DPS is terrible. Why? Because they're lazy. Getting better and improving would take work and effort. It could help people who want to grow but have nothing to measure themselves against.

I think that if they saw their DPS, and the group can see their DPS, they would be more obligated to improve. You can make the argument that they are lazy now because no one can see how they're performing. If an official parser was introduced and the lazy players were still under-performing by a lot, well then the rest of the group knows who to kick.

[Jynx]

I think that if they saw their DPS, and the group can see their DPS, they would be more obligated to improve. You can make the argument that they are lazy now because no one can see how they're performing. If an official parser was introduced and the lazy players were still under-performing by a lot, well then the rest of the group knows who to kick.

Has it ever been difficult to tell who isn't pulling their weight?

Unless your pushing bleeding edge content I'm certain that most content of the game the entire party can be semi-afk to complete. So in the end how does this effect anyone even if you have a metric to measure people. What does this matter to the "Bads" everyone likes to say they would immediately boot if only they had a number to throw in their faces!

The duty finder will still be plagued with lazy layabouts because they don't care what you think, they don't care if you have a number to judge them on, they don't care because they wont ever see you again nor will you remember them if you mysteriously actually see them again.

The only content this could effect is people pushing bleeding edge content and honestly a vast majority of those people use better tools than anything SE will cobble together.

[Istaru]

Has it ever been difficult to tell who isn't pulling their weight?

Unless your pushing bleeding edge content I'm certain that most content of the game the entire party can be semi-afk to complete. So in the end how does this effect anyone even if you have a metric to measure people. What does this matter to the "Bads" everyone likes to say they would immediately boot if only they had a number to throw in their faces!

The duty finder will still be plagued with lazy layabouts because they don't care what you think, they don't care if you have a number to judge them on, they don't care because they wont ever see you again nor will you remember them if you mysteriously actually see them again.

The only content this could effect is people pushing bleeding edge content and honestly a vast majority of those people use better tools than anything SE will cobble together.

This so much!!

[CookieMonsta]

Has it ever been difficult to tell who isn't pulling their weight?


The duty finder will still be plagued with lazy layabouts because they don't care what you think, they don't care if you have a number to judge them on, they don't care because they wont ever see you again nor will you remember them if you mysteriously actually see them again.

The only content this could effect is people pushing bleeding edge content and honestly a vast majority of those people use better tools than anything SE will cobble together.

Yes and No, while the program which must not be named does Parse reasonably well. Nothing 3rd party can match the kind of internal performance counters that SE can access via their Dev API. For example, DoTs/HoTs are still estimated because it is simply not logged, so are DoT/HoT crits. The Official parser will not only be easier to use, but also more accurate.

[SeriouslySalty]

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No, it is usually clear when someone isn't pulling their own weight. A parser would simply serve to prove that numerically. Just because most of the game is "semi-afk"able doesn't mean I want to take more time to complete a dungeon than what is necessary.

People want to improve at all levels, why not help them do so? Doesn't matter if you're lvl 20 or lvl 60, a parser can benefit everyone. The overall skill of this game's community is so poor it is absurd; this is mainly due to SE giving players high level gear for little effort but that's a different topic altogether. A parser would be a meaningful tool for players to improve themselves, and for mentors to help sprouts as well. When all is said and done, I truly don't want a parser just so I or others can justify kicking another person in a DF dungeon. I want it so that the community can improve as a whole.

[Khemorex]

I disagree. Lazy players don't care if their DPS is terrible. Why? Because they're lazy. Getting better and improving would take work and effort. It could help people who want to grow but have nothing to measure themselves against.

where do u take the right to call someone lazy when u know nothing about em? :P they could be hard working in rl and be tired , and maybe have like 2h to play to get some tomestones :P and u come here and tell em that they are lazy? :P

[raelgun]

where do u take the right to call someone lazy when u know nothing about em? :P they could be hard working in rl and be tired , and maybe have like 2h to play to get some tomestones :P and u come here and tell em that they are lazy? :P

When you are involved with other people, other peoples time and energy are also in consideration so yes, they have the right to call them lazy, this is not a one way street.

[SeriouslySalty]

where do u take the right to call someone lazy when u know nothing about em? :P they could be hard working in rl and be tired , and maybe have like 2h to play to get some tomestones :P and u come here and tell em that they are lazy? :P

Yes. If you log into the game and are half-assing a dungeon or raid at other people's expense then you are being lazy.