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    Cecilia Tyyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by mandodo69 View Post
    Now, parsers will hurt the community. I'll explain, by using a parser, you single out the weak players. By doing this, you stifle them from being able to learn and advance and get good. Now, some wont let me do Alex because there using a parser or some crap, anyway, they wont let me in. So, now I can't learn. I guess I can go watch a video sure but, if I dont reach, X amount of DPS, i'll be kicked.

    I, as many do, learn from first hand experience. We already have ilvl's to gate us, do we need the community policing who gets to do what because a parser told them so?

    No.
    Parsers don't just reveal the weaker links in a group. They show why. This alone does not "stifle them from being able to learn and advance and get good." It simply shows them why they're not doing that well in detail. After all, mistakes and results prove to be valuable teachers to help us advance. We learn from them, we take the information they have shown us and we progress. An in-game parser will help strengthen the community and proper use of it will encourage others to ask how they can get better. The only ones who will not use a parser properly are those who are afraid of being called out on being bad and show no willingness to improve, or elitists who hold unrealistic expectations who would not hesitate to dismiss someone from not putting out numbers similar to some of the best players in the world.

    A parser should never be used as a gate, but a reference tool to help us improve. The fact that you express concerns about the community blindly following what a parser says tells us that you don't have a proper understanding on how a parser can be used in a beneficial manner.

    Quote Originally Posted by mandodo69 View Post
    And then you have the issue of people just flat out abusing the report system for parsers.

    Gloating is NOT a bannable offense nor is it even frowned upon.
    It's more about harassment than it is waving around the e-peen, which I should've been more clear on stating. Unfortunately, there are people who abuse parsers based on unrealistic expectations they may hold, or outright abuse it as a means to grief others. This mindset must not be tolerated and should be expunged with extreme prejudice. The GMs, to their credit, do take harassment reports seriously and will investigate the matter. I am confident that suspensions would be meted out if a sanctioned in-game parser was abused for purposes it was not intended for.

    Please do not encourage fear-mongering against parsers. Encourage informative playing, which is what a parser would help realize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mandodo69 View Post
    Sorry to hurt your feeling but, i have cleared Alex
    Alex normal doesnt count. Seriously tho, it's fine to be againt's parsers, since that's your opinion, but making up shit isn't gonna make you look any better. Just by reading what you said, I didn't even need to click on that link to confirm you beat savage or not. I hope that tells you something.

    Not even beating seph extreme or thordan also says something about you.

    Sorry to hurt your feelings but this makes me think why you are againt's parsers, because you haven't beaten savage/thordan/seph extreme, that means you aren't doing enough and people leaving you out and you are afraid that it will happen more often if a official parser happens. Guess who's fault that is. It's your fault for not even trying or just sitting back there and lie about it. I've lost my respect to few anti parsers in this thread and almost losing it towards you. There are only a few in here I still respect not making up things to make reality look worse than it is, because it's far from truth some people in here say. I often thought, from my understanding that pro parsers (like myself I guess) are assholes. But making me look worse for a crowd simply because I support parser isn't making you any less of an asshole. You see, I actually use the tool to help people and let them improve if they ask me. While you on otherhand trying to make look like some bad person then making up things. I don't know whats more toxic than that .

    Edit:
    Actually the fact you said you beat alex and then we find out it's not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by mandodo69 View Post
    Now your whole comment is dumb and does not apply to me. thank you.
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    Last edited by Seraphix2407; 06-13-2016 at 11:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandodo69 View Post
    Simple, I'll help.

    take your top 3 damage dealing numbers and round them off.

    I know you can do it. Takes, literally, 30 seconds.
    Do a dummy strike for 3min then tell me yours. Your comment also Said Alex and er talked about higher tier one. You mentioned Alex so we all asume its savage. But please tell me how Much you do on a dummy and calculate. Because 3min log wont be done in 30sec. Crit etc happens too. But honestly im not gonna bother with your post anymore after this one. You have no idea what you talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Do a dummy strike for 3min then tell me yours. Your comment also Said Alex and er talked about higher tier one. You mentioned Alex so we all asume its savage. But please tell me how Much you do on a dummy and calculate. Because 3min log wont be done in 30sec. Crit etc happens too. But honestly im not gonna bother with your post anymore after this one. You have no idea what you talk about.
    I should be done, but I want to wait around until I get the lesson about how easy it is to tell DPS by looking at enmity meters. I figure that one's just around the corner as it's clearly a more advanced course than Settings Menu 101.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Do a dummy strike for 3min then tell me yours. Your comment also Said Alex and er talked about higher tier one. You mentioned Alex so we all asume its savage. But please tell me how Much you do on a dummy and calculate. Because 3min log wont be done in 30sec. Crit etc happens too. But honestly im not gonna bother with your post anymore after this one. You have no idea what you talk about.
    Quote me on a HIGHER tier. Mind you, not my EXAMPLE. But an actual quote from me using those exact words, "I beat Alex savage and CoB savage".

    I know you and everyone can check. i never even set my profile to private so I had NOTHING to hide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Do a dummy strike for 3min then tell me yours. Your comment also Said Alex and er talked about higher tier one. You mentioned Alex so we all asume its savage. But please tell me how Much you do on a dummy and calculate. Because 3min log wont be done in 30sec. Crit etc happens too. But honestly im not gonna bother with your post anymore after this one. You have no idea what you talk about.
    Sigh, I was talking about the math. takes 30 seconds to calculate.
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    I am actually glad this is getting front-page action again but if it's because we have to feed a troll...makes me a Sade Soja
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeekendSoja View Post
    I am actually glad this is getting front-page action again but if it's because we have to feed a troll...makes me a Sade Soja
    Hey, im bored okay. this is my entertainment. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    I should be done, but I want to wait around until I get the lesson about how easy it is to tell DPS by looking at enmity meters. I figure that one's just around the corner as it's clearly a more advanced course than Settings Menu 101.
    Ai ai. The fact he mention Alex normal is worse too. Because I posted a 66% enrage earlier in the thread lmao.
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