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    Reiryuu's Avatar
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    Imbri Undinare
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    I was just about to go to bed when I realized something about this thread. As much as I dislike the idea of parsers and such, this thread has made me actually appreciate the diversity of groups and people I meet in dungeons and my role as a healer. One of the things I find fun about my job and even the game in general is not the repetitive nature of it, but actually having to adjust to the situation. In dungeons sometimes that means DPSing and healing, sometimes it means playing spam the cure button to keep the tank alive while trying to get a few holies in to stun the mobs for a bit. Sometimes it means getting to watch two monks or a monk and a blm utterly evaporate things.

    Sometimes it leads to flawless victories or utter disasters, but once in a while you have those epic comebacks when some summoner raises the healer then dies, but the healer gets off the LB3 raises the raid and you have this huge clutch victory and those moments make it worth it to me. (I know, I know it doesn't happen that often, but when it does aren't they awesome?) So thank you all, pro-parsers and anti-parsers alike who helped me to realize that I like the diversity of people in the game and while some may frustrate me... I'm more or less OK with that and can deal with it.

    I just felt I had to post that. I'm going to sleep now it's way past my bed time and it took me way too long to write this ><;
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    Lucky Tails
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    Do I want an in-game parser?

    Fuck no.

    "WHM, it says here on my little Parser-doodle that you did lower DPS than the rest of us so far this run."

    "Well, yeah, because I was keeping the whole godsdamned team alive."

    "Well, that ain't gonna fly. The other healer is DPSing."

    "Well, yeah, that's why I was stuck keeping you all alive."

    "Yeeeaaaah, we're going to have to kick you."

    *gets kicked*

    You know that's gonna happen.
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    Last edited by Kikoten; 06-01-2016 at 02:23 AM.
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    Nenemi Nemi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    Do I want an in-game parser?

    Fuck no.

    "WHM, it says here on my little Parser-doodle that you did lower DPS than the rest of us so far this run."

    "Well, yeah, because I was keeping the whole godsdamned team alive."

    "Well, that ain't gonna fly. The other healer is DPSing."

    "Well, yeah, that's why I was stuck keeping you all alive."

    "Yeeeaaaah, we're going to have to kick you."

    *gets kicked*

    You know that's gonna happen.
    I main WHM and that never happens on SCH maybe if your the back up healer and your not dps when you can be.

    It may also be a wake-up call for DPS when they see they are doing less damage then a WHM which happens quite often when I do dungeons.
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    Do I want an in-game parser?.
    Gonna wait till you post proof it happens often. Im being serious btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Gonna wait till you post proof it happens often. Im being serious btw.
    That'd be difficult, considering Square Enix's stance on Naming/Shaming, and people being unwilling to post screenshots because of that. You need only look at the nature of people, and how they act on the internet. Give this a read:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ly_preventing/

    That's about all I can do.

    EDIT: I could tell you about my few experiences I had with people whom I could have just seen using the parser as a means to harass the party, one of them being a boisterous raid leader I met while running Haukke Manor NM. The SOB treated it like a godsdamned high-end raid. Here this guy was, decked out in top-of-the-line gear, and the Dragoon in the party, who looked to be in their mid-30s, ran ahead of the party once. He stuck his nose in the air and started talking down to that person. Then about 5 minutes later, the "raid leader" initiates a vote-kick for that Dragoon, out of nowhere. I vote "No," but, of course, the Dragoon still gets kicked. I ask the "raid leader" why, and he gave me some bullshit about how the Dragoon kept running ahead of the party (despite me seeing him do it only once), and what I say doesn't matter, because I don't tank, I just sit in the back, twanging my bow (I was playing bard @ the time).

    I can see someone like THAT abusing the parser system. Like I said, that was just one of few experiences I had. People in FFXIV, as well as people in just about any MMO, are douchebags. Sometimes, even the nice ones. Give someone a parser, guess what that invites.

    EDIT 2: I was running Lost City of Amdapor. The PLD tank decided to remove Shield Oath after one wipe. I had to work my ass off keeping him alive, taking away my ability to DPS as much as before. After the last boss, the tank: "Nobody likes a healer who doesn't DPS." *leaves* Imagine him with an in-game parser. There are a LOT of people like him.
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    Last edited by Kikoten; 06-02-2016 at 12:31 AM.
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    I could tell you about my few experiences I had with people whom I could have just seen using the parser as a means to harass the party, one of them being a boisterous raid leader I met while running Haukke Manor NM. The SOB treated it like a godsdamned high-end raid. Here this guy was, decked out in top-of-the-line gear, and the Dragoon in the party, who looked to be in their mid-30s, ran ahead of the party once. He stuck his nose in the air and started talking down to that person. Then about 5 minutes later, the "raid leader" initiates a vote-kick for that Dragoon, out of nowhere. I vote "No," but, of course, the Dragoon still gets kicked.

    I can see someone like THAT abusing the parser system
    From your own example though, how could this guy be any more of an Ahole if a parser was added? some people are just jerks, whether there is a parser available or not. In fact, I'd even argue that it can only be a good way of maybe reigning in people like that, maybe they wouldn't be quite so vocal if we could all see their numbers as well,

    I would point out though, that you use this as an example of abuse of a parser, but actually from what you've stated nowhere does this happen, he never mentioned any numbers, just kicked someone from running ahead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Highly accurate.
    NAILED IT! If only I could like this more than once.
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    Dement Drachte
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    That's too bad. Those tend to be the best healers. Considering that those types tend to be trying to push their jobs to the upper limits, they very rarely let the tank die in favor of DPS since A.) it's usually pretty noticeable that they are failing their primary job and B.) once the tank is dead, their own numbers will plummet due to their own rapidly coming demise. Thus, the vast majority of the DPS pushing healers that I've encountered very rarely let me die as a tank. Also if they've hit the accuracy cap, that tends to correlate with Alexander Savage experience and if you can heal Savage, you can sure as hell heal the Lawltower or the rare occurrence of Lol City of Amdapor without much issue.
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    I'm not Selene's pet... she's my pet... I'm the Main Healers pet, who uses his own pet. >:[ I'm a sentient intelligence that will heal without their command, just as selene it's a sentient VI, that can embrace. xF
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-01-2016 at 05:08 AM.

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