Would you like an in-game parser?

[KarstenS]

Considering Antitower and Amdapor are unlocked at ilvl 180 and the max ilvl you can attain is 240, it's expected to have a huge window of acceptable DPS numbers.

In i180, every DPS class is able to deal 1k+ DPS without being at the top end of class skill.

The "window" is not that huge as you claim.

And DPS numbers that were already not good at Lvl 50 are more bad at Lvl 60.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

No, it's expert roulette, you should expect to occasionally run into people That're still learning the level 60 rotation of an off main they haven't used much, as well as re-acclimating to their job skills. Further to the point, healers do actually get to ignore skills that they don't need, such as their entire healing repertoire sans maybe lustrate for Scholar. Further, most healers I've seen will ignore the HP of the DPS after raid wide damage if they feel the can finish the fight faster with DPSing themselves, letting them ignore medica/Helios, etc.

[Seraphix2407]

No,

Enochian is 56. Bliz 4, 58. Thats 2 levels where you learn to use Enochian and Maintain. You have 4 levels to learn how to use Enochian. 4levels you know the skill exist, you dont ignore it. Ofc people learn shower than others, keep in mind thats why we having levling dungeons so people can learn in there and not outside, besides the lvl 60 skill. I refuse to go BLM in roulettes because I dont know how to play it.

[Reiryuu]

I refuse to go BLM in roulettes because I dont know how to play it.

But see, that's part of our point. Shouldn't you be able to go into something like a roulette on a job you aren't 100% confident with to get more comfortable on it in group situations? Shouldn't casual content like dungeons be more relaxed so you don't have to worry about playing 100% all the time?

[Seraphix2407]

You are playing with 3 others. Why is it all me me me me. Sounds more selfish than anything.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

You are playing with 3 others. Why is it all me me me me. Sounds more selfish than anything.

Ironically, you can pretty much say that about both sides in this debate and it'd be equally fitting.

[Seraphix2407]

So I have to adjust to people who have no clue on their class? Fine by me i wont use cooldowns then. And also i dont expect 100%in roulettes i expect knowledge of the class you enter with. Btw you do things in levling dungeons too, thats why you get your skill while levling so you learn how to use them.

[Launched]

But see, that's part of our point. Shouldn't you be able to go into something like a roulette on a job you aren't 100% confident with to get more comfortable on it in group situations? Shouldn't casual content like dungeons be more relaxed so you don't have to worry about playing 100% all the time?

You should be comfortable enough to be able to go in and never drop your buffs like Enochian or Blood of the Dragon (while still using Fire IV/Geirskogul) unless there are mechanics that force it. If you can't do that, you should spend an hour or two on a dummy.

[Reiryuu]

You should be comfortable enough to be able to go in and never drop your buffs like Enochian or Blood of the Dragon (while still using Fire IV/Geirskogul) unless there are mechanics that force it. If you can't do that, you should spend an hour or two on a dummy.

How is a dummy going to remind you about those though? How is a dummy going to teach you to use or maintain anything while you're running around fighting groups of mobs? For that matter, how is a parser going to remind you about those too because that is the topic of discussion here, right?
Seriously, are you going to wipe the party for forgetting about them? Should you be using them, yes. Do people need to get bent out of shape if you don't/forget? No. I mean, "Hey, you know, Enochian gives you a 5% boost to your magic damage. You should try keeping it up more." is far better than saying "Yo bot, why aren't you using Enochian?"

I mean I go in dungeons on Astro occasionally and one of the things I always seem to need to remember is which skill is my Esuna equivalent and where I put it on my hot bars. It doesn't help that many astro skills look alike to me too with like little swirly things and balls of different colors lol. But if I didn't have a need to use Esuna (or whatever the Astro equivalent is called) I probably wouldn't have looked for it either.

[Seraphix2407]

People have botted before and people plays like bots, thats the Sad part. Also like you said dummy does Jack shit when you are in an actuall fight. But keeping up your buff can be taught on a dummy, you Just adjust in the fight if anything. Its not about wiping a group Coz one person dont use their skill. Just use the skill you get while you lvl up. Simple.