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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    How could my group of 7 people kill sephirot 2 min faster than a 4 dps group? And we are in the same gear, I'm waiting for you to explain.
    Familiarity with the content to the degree that you could probably do it in your sleep vs a group of players that don't know the content or haven't memorized every singleminutiae, causing deaths and lost dDPS by mistakes that add up over the course of the instance. Not sure! I can't think of any reason in particular.
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    No. I wouldn't like if one was added
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    No. I wouldn't like if one was added
    Which you don't want? Personal or Group?
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    No matter how much you want to pretend a parser is a magical cure all, it's at best a distraction, and at worst, downright useless because the person with it either doesn't know how to get better or doesn't want to get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    No matter how much you want to pretend a parser is a magical cure all, it's at best a distraction, and at worst, downright useless because the person with it either doesn't know how to get better or doesn't want to get better.
    We never pretend a parser is a magical cure. It will only help those that want to be helped and want to improve.
    If a person decides he doesn't care, he shouldn't enter group-based content. It's group, not I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reisui View Post
    We never pretend a parser is a magical cure. It will only help those that want to be helped and want to improve.
    If a person decides he doesn't care, he shouldn't enter group-based content. It's group, not I.
    Excactly. Sadly, people don't get it and I'm pretty sure I never said its something magical that's gonna make people greater, it's a tool to help people improve only if they wish for. If they don't want to improve, don't join a groups. If you do you are only there to pull a group down, which is in my concern some form of trolling. No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reisui View Post
    We never pretend a parser is a magical cure. It will only help those that want to be helped and want to improve.
    If a person decides he doesn't care, he shouldn't enter group-based content. It's group, not I.
    That's precisely pretending it's a magical cure all, by implying it's impossible to get better without usage of a parser. It's perfectly and totally possible to get better and maximize your deeps without a parser, a parser just simplifies the process while providing another distraction to watch during content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    That's precisely pretending it's a magical cure all, by implying it's impossible to get better without usage of a parser. It's perfectly and totally possible to get better and maximize your deeps without a parser, a parser just simplifies the process while providing another distraction to watch during content.
    I never said you can't improve without parser, if that's what my post made you think, sorry for the misunderstanding. But this because we can get better without parser, doesn't mean we don't need one for the people that would like one.

    I for one would like one, as my only source (unless I ask a friend to parse me) are guides. But I don't have the joy to experiment.

    As example, I killed the Sephirot Dummy multiple times, but I still don't know my end result. And with a parser I could maybe improve here and there.

    Then also, a Dummy isn't the same as the actual fight, so I would like to know how I did in that fight, and what it would give if I used a CD a bit later or earlier, etc...
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    Mods get in here and count the different names for the prior who voted on each post to help us out please! (Lol)

    *Performs a summoning ritual for a GM, arcanist crystals and all*

    GM: WHY HAVE THOU SUMMONED ME MORT- Oh shit, is this a parser thread? I'm getting out of here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You know what might be even better for the party ? Talking.
    Sharing strat so that no one would be caught "off-guard" by a "Oh, you do this that way"
    talking to each other and using a parser are not mutually exclusive.
    It's nice and all but it sill does not answer one question: Why do I have to be parsed because this fellow want a parser ? Why do everybody have to eat pancakes because some of us want them ?
    These are entirely different - this is a cooperative team environment, where your performance directly affects the people you are paired with. If you not eating a pancake somehow caused me pain, wasted my time, or otherwise directly affected me, then yes I'd say eat a pancake. Luckily for both of us they don't (I have celiac and gluten free pancakes are gross).
    Quote Originally Posted by KonOkami View Post
    That's because right now it's a banable offense(or the rumor has it). If you use a parser and don't talk about it it's all cool, even if detected chances are GMs are gonna look the other way, but if you use one, openly admit it in chat and harass another player based on it you can bet your ass it's not gonna end well.
    What I find odd about this is then, really, the only bannable offense is harassment - no? Like I can't imagine that there should be more leniency to say harassing someone because of their gender/race/sexual orientation, then there would be at harassing based on DPS. Perhaps I am wrong on that.
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 05-31-2016 at 12:09 AM.

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