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    Alexftw's Avatar
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    Alex Ftw
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Honestly anyone can clear savage as long as they have/do the following:
    1. Reflex memory as for skills (some people may need to practice longer than others for this part but anyone can do it)
    2. Research on optimizating dps, dmg loss, and team colaboration(being open mind to new strategies and trying to always improve is a huge plus)
    3. Attempt to understand boss mechanisms for every role (so that you know what's going on and can opimizate strategy and recover from unexpected situations)
    4. Look what went wrong every time group wipes and attempt to fix it. Don't get angry if you or someone makes a mistake as no one is perfect(simply try not to repeat mistakes if you can).
    5. Stay always positive. Raiding is a bitch at times when progress is slow. Staying positive makes the team ambient better which influences progress somehow.
    5. Have enough free time and patience to find a team and do all the above


    In the end the issue is finding people who are determinated enough to think for themselves and improve, not the lack of dps itself, nor mechanisms(both easily solvable).
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    Last edited by Alexftw; 05-08-2016 at 10:31 AM.

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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    ^ Yep. :O <3
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    Mimmoki Moki
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffounz View Post
    Yes Yes Yes. And DPS minimum requirements to join content.
    Not to sound to douchey, but with the dps checks in endgame, they kinda should. If you can't beat SSS for said content, you really have no business going in there cause you will fail.
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Not to sound to douchey, but with the dps checks in endgame, they kinda should. If you can't beat SSS for said content, you really have no business going in there cause you will fail.


    Chiming in on your comment and touching on Raffounz's. SE could reasonably make it so you need to have cleared SSS to enter certain instances. WoW did it with their Proving Grounds and while neither SSS or the Proving Grounds are really that big of roadblocks its something I suppose for those wanting it.

    Touching on what Raffounz said though. There is no feasible way that SE can create a system that prevents players from joining content unless they meet a arbitrary DPS requirement set forth by a PF leader. SE can make SSS a requirement but nothing is stopping players from button mashing once they complete SSS other than the group they are in kicking them from party. (Though in that scenario they're really just trolls at that point) Regardless making SSS required is reasonable and perfectly doable in my mind, but DPS requirements set forth by the system itself is never going to be a reality because other than something like SSS how would the system collect this data? Striking dummy target w/ every queue?
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    Last edited by SDaemon; 05-15-2016 at 02:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Touching on what Raffounz said though. There is no feasible way that SE can create a system that prevents players from joining content unless they meet a arbitrary DPS requirement set forth by a PF leader. SE can make SSS a requirement but nothing is stopping players from button mashing once they complete SSS other than the group they are in kicking them from party. Regardless making SSS required is reasonable and perfectly doable in my mind, but DPS requirements set forth by the system itself is never going to be a reality.
    No matter what, some people are going to be jerks, but if you want to dps check everything, at least give us something legal we can use. I see no harm in allowing it in PF for non-duty finder. And if they put in a parser and say raid wide dps needs to be x, now you at least have a starting point and know everyone is capable of hitting that number.
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    Taisai Jin
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    Kinda... PvP already kinda sorta maybe has something similar, wouldn't mind something similar at the end of dungeons/etc. If you lock it to the end of an instance as well, then there's little room for abuse mid-run... Just a wall of shame at the end...
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    The theorycrafter in me rather desperately wants one, but I feel that the Terms of Service would need to be adjusted so that harassment includes using parse data to berate and target other players. I've seen people use "illegal" parsers to that effect, and it was one of the most souring experiences I've ever had in this game.

    A well-programmed parser would not only count personal DPS contribution, but also the DPS contribution by other players that you may have provided through buffs/debuffs, as well as damage mitigated/healed, TP regenerated, damage taken, and MP used/regenerated. Such a parser would be incredibly complex to code, but would be able to provide players with a much clearer picture of their contribution to a given party than just their DPS/damage done.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Yes please, I would like to play my AST at my maximum capacity on an official level ^_______^
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    Bell Jee
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    NO. This game wasnt made for dps parser thing anyways. People will abuse it and harass around. Not cool
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johaandr View Post
    NO. This game wasnt made for dps parser thing anyways. People will abuse it and harass around. Not cool
    *cough* gordias *cough* bismark *cough* sorry, I had something stuck in my throat.
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