Would you like an in-game parser?

[Rawrz]

And I suppose you don't want cameras and microphones in your house because you have some drug traffic you need to hide, right ?

The cameras are there to see if someone is breaking in and abusing my stuff. >:[ Making me vacuum up their dirt and burn their socks. Lol jk. I Don't care what you do in my house, just be nice and maybe pet my dog. When I'm at home I like to watch myself with the cameras I installed, because I'm sexy. ;D

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

And I suppose you don't want cameras and microphones in your house because you have some drug traffic you need to hide, right ?

That's not really comparable. Your DPS isn't some personal thing that requires privacy, it's your performance and effects the whole group. It's more akin to your boss keeping track of the work you've done and checking how well you're doing your job. While some people may not like that, it's perfectly fair.

If the reason people are anti-parser is because of some idea that DPS is a personal and private thing, then I really don't know what to tell you. It's not :P

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

It's more akin to your boss keeping track of the work you've done and checking how well you're doing your job. While some people may not like that, it's perfectly fair.

50k Gil for every trash pull I end with 1k DPS plus, 400k for every trash pull with me doing 5k plus. Oh, and bosses are pricier, 250k per boss, 75k bonus for every multiple of 500 DPS I reach. And if you want a fully optimized opener, that'll be extra. If you want to start pretending your my boss, we'll have to discuss payment.

[Seraphix2407]

50k Gil for every trash pull I end with 1k DPS plus, 400k for every trash pull with me doing 5k plus. Oh, and bosses are pricier, 250k per boss, 75k bonus for every multiple of 500 DPS I reach. And if you want a fully optimized opener, that'll be extra. If you want to start pretending your my boss, we'll have to discuss payment.

I'm more amazed how people takes metaphore somewhat the wrong way and need to add up some random setence into it. More amazed than those who do 500 dps in normal alex not being afk.

Want me to add something to what you said? Let's say hes our boss and we do dungeons. We are both salesmen, but I out perform you, who you think gonna get paid at all or most? Mostlikely me. Hard to work pays off no? Just something random I guess.

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

50k Gil for every trash pull I end with 1k DPS plus, 400k for every trash pull with me doing 5k plus. Oh, and bosses are pricier, 250k per boss, 75k bonus for every multiple of 500 DPS I reach. And if you want a fully optimized opener, that'll be extra. If you want to start pretending your my boss, we'll have to discuss payment.

Point missed! The point is it's not personal information and is relevant to the whole party. It shouldn't be seen as a personal attack if someone points out your damage is low. Now if they do it nasty, that's another story, but that's not an overly common thing and, even if you see it often, most people will disagree with that person and it's reportable. But no, let's continue to argue ancillary points, miss points of the other side, and have no real discussion.

[CaedemSanguis]

And I suppose you don't want cameras and microphones in your house because you have some drug traffic you need to hide, right ?

Can you give another reason to the guys who dont want any parser ? If the parser is personnal they are not problem, if is a global parser they are again not problem. I think the discrimination in dps can be good, a dps who have 200dps is a dps who are lazy and who dont do hes job, like the tank who dont tank, like the heal who dont heal, a dps who dont dps need be know trough a parser, there is no discrimination in this.

[Reynhart]

When I'm at home I like to watch myself with the cameras I installed, because I'm sexy. ;D

Would you be ok if someone else installed them ?

Can you give another reason to the guys who dont want any parser ? If the parser is personnal they are not problem, if is a global parser they are again not problem. I think the discrimination in dps can be good, a dps who have 200dps is a dps who are lazy and who dont do hes job, like the tank who dont tank, like the heal who dont heal, a dps who dont dps need be know trough a parser, there is no discrimination in this.

See the example I gave to Lady Celes. Whatever your DPS is, you can always end with someone who want more. Enough DPS is not...enough.

But, you want another reason, I'll give you one. By being obsessed with numbers, we'll eventually deny any kind of choice, because the mere idea of losing this small bit of DPS is crippling. We'll reject some jobs because they can do slightly less damage, even though they're perfectly able to clear content. We'll either reject special skills on gear or make them mandatory, depending on their DPS output. Where's the part where games are supposed to be fun ? What's the point of having so much jobs if, in the end, you're restricted only to the optimal setup ? Why do we still complain that itemization is bland when we're the one to say that we won't even care, since, in the end, we'll only want the best possible setup.

It's more akin to your boss keeping track of the work you've done and checking how well you're doing your job. While some people may not like that, it's perfectly fair.

What about "You're not my boss, you have no authority over me" ? Or, I'll start to ask for payment then.

[Seraphix2407]

See the example I gave to Lady Celes. Whatever your DPS is, you can always end with someone who want more. Enough DPS is not...enough.

And many pro parsers in this thread already stated enough dps is enough. If you do lets say 900 on BRD with a DRG in party and the other BRD does 1.400. You know there is somewhat a problem, and they both can be same geared as well. Many farms parties doesn't even have enough dps to clear/farm content, because it happened to have all the dps who doesn't pull enough. Now, If I do help people and there is a brd doing 1.1k and doesn't die and do mechs fine, I'll let him stay. And parsing again ISN'T JUST NUMBERS. Many including myself have repeated that, so many time's it's getting old dont you think my friend? How many people do you meet that gonna whine that someone is doing less, lets say 50-150 then the top dps in the group? Then say it's not enough? I'm very SURE, you don't see many. But if a person does 600-850 in a seph farm group, they better know how to play better. Just my opinion.

I could also give you tons of screenshots of people not doing enough, leech or just being lazy. That amount of players exist more than those you describe, so I don't really know what you are afraid of excactly. Or is it the fact you want to protect those who are so bad, you don't want them to be ''offended''?

Edit: Check on reddit, I think it's on the frontpage, a guy posted some parser info on the page there and there was DRG, MCH, MNK etc doing 500-700 in M4 normal and both tanks outspdes them. Those are the one's we want to fix, I don't really care if someone is doing 100-150 less or even 200 less than they should, but please ? 500-700? We all know those people are the ones we trying to avoid at all cost. And no the boss enraged at amazing 44%...

[Reynhart]

Or is it the fact you want to protect those who are so bad, you don't want them to be ''offended''?

See my reason above.
The more we focus on damage numbers, the more DPS checks we'll have, so we'll focus moreon damage, for more DPS checks, etc...

In 10 years of FFXI, I've never been bothered by not having a relic, or a full Salvage or Empyrean+2 set as a WHM, because I didn't let people die. Were my heals the strongest ? Probably not. Was my damage good ? Hmm...no, but WHM damage was crap whatever gear you have. Was I mocked because I put my merit points in Barrier spells ? No. No one cared, because I still did my job. But it was my build, my choices, and the WHM I liked.
Compared to that, this game is bland, it is hollow. And this obssesion plays a big role in it.

And worse...even 1.23 was more interesting when it came to build. Choosing classes over jobs was a tactical choice sometimes, as was choosing gear...but yeah, I'm just lazy, I'm just fishy...and I'm just starting to be bored by this game.

Alright. Intramural sports team and the stats a friend keeps.

So, if I'm the goalkeeper in a soccer team and we win every watch, you'll bitch about how I didn't stop every ball ? Or how many miles I traveled during the whole match ?
The more metaphor you'll make, the less "it's only for helping" you'll sound...

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

So, if I'm the goalkeeper in a soccer team and we win every watch, you'll bitch about how I didn't stop every ball ? Or how many miles I traveled during the whole match ?
The more metaphor you'll make, the less "it's only for helping" you'll sound...

No. No one said that. Only you did. You're creating these false situations to fit your narrative and that happening would just be absurd. If that happened, people would probably tell the dude to chill out.