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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    The truth will set us free... To harass others! OK, sure, why not, let's have parsers. Could be fun.
    Harrasment already happens from players who doesn't want parsers or people who doesn't even use one. Pro hint, the people who drags 7 people down because they refuse to get gud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Harrasment already happens from players who doesn't want parsers or people who doesn't even use one. Pro hint, the people who drags 7 people down because they refuse to get gud.
    This isn't specifically directed to you, just bouncing off what you said:

    Honestly this entire harassment angle is being so overly skewed. People currently harass using parsers, people currently harass without them. The presence and/or absences of parsers won't cause or get rid of harassment. Though honestly I don't think anyone has argued that, though I may be wrong.

    Will parsers lead to a spike in harassment? It is certainly a possibility. Will people harass using parser data? Most certainly, they do now, they will if they are made official. But it isn't an all encompassing thing where every parser user is going to go out of their way to harass others and really I think people are focusing too much on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Will parsers lead to a spike in harassment? It is certainly a possibility. Will people harass using parser data? Most certainly, they do now, they will if they are made official. But it isn't an all encompassing thing where every parser user is going to go out of their way to harass others and really I think people are focusing too much on it.
    Just to bounce off this train of thought further, the implementation of a global parser could also cause a reduction in harassment cases as well since the part of the community that is "Gitgud scrub" when they themselves are the weakest link in an entire group would be muzzled since their poor performance would be reflected openly.

    While there are a myriad of different scenarios we all can throw out in the open, we won't know what actually will occur until (if) a parser gets implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Will parsers lead to a spike in harassment? It is certainly a possibility. Will people harass using parser data? Most certainly, they do now, they will if they are made official. But it isn't an all encompassing thing where every parser user is going to go out of their way to harass others and really I think people are focusing too much on it.
    A guy comes to me and say; Hey!! Arawn your DRG dps about 300 lower than it should be, mind if I can teach you how to play, rotation and whatnot? Now, was this guy offending me? Nope
    Many find this offensive, I will say it again.

    You are in a room with 10 people, 9 loves pancakes and 1 doesn't. So to make that 1 single guy not feel offended, they all stop eating pancakes.
    Get me now? Yes I'm aware many say, you suck etc etc. I get it, many in here in fact get it, so no one needs to tell us, we are well aware of it. What you and some in here aren't aware of (look at my example about a guy telling me about my drg dps) is that those words arent even offensive at all. People just get offended by anything these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Just to bounce off this train of thought further, the implementation of a global parser could also cause a reduction in harassment cases as well since the part of the community that is "Gitgud scrub" when they themselves are the weakest link in an entire group would be muzzled since their poor performance would be reflected openly.

    While there are a myriad of different scenarios we all can throw out in the open, we won't know what actually will occur until (if) a parser gets implemented.
    Excactly my thoughts. Many players who doesn't know why they arent part of a team, get invited to hard content, they all still wonder why. Many of those are those who need to get gud, simply, so if there was, lets say a parser in game and they saw those data/info for themselves maybe they would light up and think; Oh, I was the bad link this entire time, thank god we finally have a parser so I can join those cool groups! yay! Many actually feels this way after some of them got parsers, woop and it's soo fun watching them being so excited, using hours, days to improve with fc members or friends, it's all good. The best part? They improved so much everyone wants to have them on their team and that feeling my friend, is awesome .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    The truth will set us free... To harass others! OK, sure, why not, let's have parsers. Could be fun.
    Personally I'd rather live the nightmare of a truth than a comforting lie.

    Iono... If people are gonna harass me anyway, it might as well be for something I did.
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    Lol, if I could from my phone I would...but let's hashtag for good ol' times

    #gitgudcommunity #onebuttonrotationyo
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    Ok i was joking when i compared dps listing to FPS kill death ratios. Thise people can handle when they are subpar. Seems like our people cant. Also if i was in a group and was deemed unworthy i wouldnt care not all groups mix well. If its the best option for the group its got to be done. And plus u cant farm a5s a6s over and over the same day with the same group so ur argument isnt valid. But i do umderstand what u r saying
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    Last edited by LadyCeles; 05-21-2016 at 07:40 AM.

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    I find it funny that the FPS-crowd comparison was made and people still didn't realize how accurate it is to this topic.

    I hope you* get your parser, because it will make the game more enjoyable for you on your terms.
    I hope the parser is limited to the savage/extreme content where it and the DPS uber Alles mentality is actually relevant. The other 95+% of the population doesn't really need it for the rest of the content.

    *I'll leave it up to you to decide whether "you" applies to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slevin_Impudicus View Post
    The other 95+% of the population doesn't really
    -This isnt true for everyone. After doing a dungeon 259482934863428976596 times I dont want to be in it any longer than i have to. If my party maximizes their over all dps then it gets me out sooner and i can also farm quicker and more efficiently.

    -Honestly parsing is like getting a job. You dont have to. You can chose to not better your self. If you do, people will insult you at work. If you dont, people will insult you for being unemployed. Trying to build a game around the sensitive players isnt going to make the trolls troll any less it only gives them fuel because its now more obvious that it bothers them. Honestly just play your game and enjoy it. If people are mean or exploit things then so be it. Thats life, and this is a game. Besides there is already a rule about harassing people in game, it doesnt matter what they are talking about when they do it.(sexism, racial slurs, lack of ilvl) You can still report them all the same. I support getting an in game parser. Do i like jerks who stroke their e-peen while insulting anyone with lower numbers? Does it matter if i do? They arent going away. So im going to enjoy myself.
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    Last edited by xJimmehx; 05-21-2016 at 11:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    Personally I'd rather live the nightmare of a truth than a comforting lie.

    Iono... If people are gonna harass me anyway, it might as well be for something I did.
    Marry me please.
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