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    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    You just made my point for me. Look at all these examples of awful toxic players and it has nothing to do with parsers. So...how is parsing going to do anything worse? BLM will still only cast Blizzard, people still won't heal right, etc..etc... Like I said. The Apocalypse happened a long time ago.

    So parsing shouldn't make anything worse.
    No you talk about dungeons. I talk about primals and raids, thats a big difference. First of all if you can't do your job like you should, stay away from primals or raids, or simply get better. If you do cast blizzard only in dungeons, that's not something to blame on their dps numbers, that's their attitude, there is a difference. If I see a guy doing blizard>fire>bliz>fire 24-7 I won't call out their dps but rather their rotation or attitude. You on otherhand, don't see my point. I didn't make a point for you at all. So don't really see what you talk about. You prove my point that people do whatever they wanna do then they go inside primals or raids and it sounds like we all just have to accept that bad attitude. Thing is, they need to see it themselves, a lot of people are offended until they know what they do wrong or not.
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    Last edited by Seraphix2407; 05-19-2016 at 04:34 AM.

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    The most toxic thing in the game is healer DPS. No need to enable people to intentionally cause wipes anymore than they already do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    The most toxic thing in the game is healer DPS. No need to enable people to intentionally cause wipes anymore than they already do.
    Yeah, because tanks tanking outside of tank stance, is a completely acceptable thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    Yes I would lik one. I would like to know if I'm where I should be on my DPS. I don't think it will have the bullying effect people think it would because it's not like its recording your parsed damage and displaying it above your head. Adjust the training dummies or something to show an average DPS for your eyes only. I don't see any harm in this at all. And OP, unless they provide a valid argument against your post, I wouldn't worry so much about the no's. People on these forums like to disagree with just about anything.

    Yeah... no bullying? Go look how much bullying there is with their dps meter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaverman5000 View Post
    Yeah... no bullying? Go look how much bullying there is with their dps meter...
    There are more bullies wasting peoples time and effort. Way more people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    So parsing shouldn't make anything worse.
    How is parser gonna make things worse if people are already that weird on playstyle? So we can offend them more you mean?
    Hmm reminds me when I used to be a bad player as well but eventually got told in both shit and good ways and still improved, now people barely talk about it, so whats your excuse then?:/ Ignore the fact you are bad and move on? :/
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    Last edited by Seraphix2407; 05-19-2016 at 07:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    There are more bullies wasting peoples time and effort. Way more people.

    How is parser gonna make things worse if people are already that weird on playstyle? So we can offend them more you mean?
    Hmm reminds me when I used to be a bad player as well but eventually got told in both shit and good ways and still improved, now people barely talk about it, so whats your excuse then?:/ Ignore the fact you are bad and move on? :/
    What are you talking about? I'm pro-parser. I have always been pro-parser. I'm also not bad at the game. I think you got really confused at some point and lost what I was trying to say....
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    To the person talking about Yoshidas experience...he didn't even play ffxi, and that is this companies other mmo :/ I find that odd..

    Anyway yeah we need a parser but they'll never give us one lol.
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    I'm less concerned with the small chance of trolls, and more concerned with the average Joe. Every single DF run is gonna dissolve into an argument with parsers. My healer is gonna ask why my DRG's DPS is lower than "some other DRG" and the DRG is gonna tell the healer that her healing is terrible. And my DFs are gonna take longer. As much as I want parsers I'm glad Yoshi-P is smart enough to see that and we will never get them.
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    I hope the Anti DPS Meter fraction isn't doing trial roulette these days.

    I got into Ravana (STORY MODE!) yesterday and it was the same desaster I've read of in another thread. The damage these DD threw out was sooo low. One of them did less than 100 DPS.

    I just leave this picture here of the other thread, as it shows exactly the same I had to see myself over and over yesterday.



    Additional to just showing the numbers a performance gauge would be nice, which shows how you perform compared to other players in the same job at the same gear level.
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 05-19-2016 at 05:10 PM.

    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

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    Arawn Wymer
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Additional to just showing the numbers a performance gauge would be nice, which shows how you perform compared to other players in the same job at the same gear level.
    Last few trials I've gotten a few ravanas. Adds did die slow, and we even wiped to it few times. But this is the question, did anyone call their dps out? Nope. I'm pretty sure someone would but no one did. Then the second time I got in ravana It was so bad some people left, I could leave too but I stayed. Did people call their dps out again? Nope. Lazy dps in expert? nope, as long they did fine and not go pure afk it was fine by me. Did I call them out? Nope. Could they done better? Yes, still... people think just because I could run a parser I'm automatic an asshole.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    What I've seen a lot is stopping runs because of the DPS issue like "In the end, we'll hit enrage" when most of the team is still learning to deal with mechanics.
    Rarely happens to me, happens often when it's a farm group.
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