Would you like an in-game parser?

[Ghishlain]

Random stat breakdown time (take with a grain of salt as this a small and limited sample size):

Total Votes as of May 9th, 2016 - 0847 EST (thread approximately going for 3 days)
Total Vote - 209 Votes
No Parser - 34 Votes (16.27%)
Yes, Group Parser - 107 Votes (51.20%)
Yes, Personal Parser - 68 Votes (32.54%)

No VS Yes, Group Parser

Total Vote - 141 Votes
No Parser - 34 Votes (24.11%)
Yes, Group Parser - 107 Votes (75.89%)

No VS Yes, Personal Parser

Total Vote - 102 Votes
No Parser - 34 Votes (33.33%)
Yes, Personal Parser - 68 Votes (66.67%)

Total Votes arbitrarily assuming 50% of the Group Parser population voted both

Total Vote - 155 Votes
No Parser - 34 Votes (21.94%)
Yes, Group Parser - 53 Votes (34.19%)
Yes, Personal Parser - 14 Votes (9.03%)
Yes, Don't Care About Either (Assumption) - 54 Votes (34.84%)

Total Votes arbitrarily assuming 50% of the Personal Parser population voted both

Total Vote - 175 Votes
No Parser - 34 Votes (19.43%)
Yes, Group Parser - 73 Votes (41.71%)
Yes, Personal Parser - 34 Votes (19.43%)
Yes, Don't Care About Either (Assumption) - 34 Votes (19.43%)

I continue to be surprised that the "No" vote continues to remain as low as it is despite how many people are seemingly opposed to parsers, though that's probably confirmation bias on my own part too.

[LaylaTsarra]

Random stat breakdown time (take with a grain of salt as this a small and limited sample size):

[U][B]TI continue to be surprised that the "No" vote continues to remain as low as it is despite how many people are seemingly opposed to parsers, though that's probably confirmation bias on my own part too.

The vote is split about 50/50 between those who want a group parser and those who don't. I don't think many opposed to group parsers are not in favor of a personal one for their use only. It really only goes to show that group parsers aren't wanted by half the population here in this thread at least.

[Ghishlain]

The vote is split about 50/50 between those who want a group parser and those who don't. I don't think many opposed to group parsers are not in favor of a personal one for their use only. It really only goes to show that group parsers aren't wanted by half the population here in this thread at least.

Alternatively, one can interpret the data to say that very few people are actually opposed to a parser, but they're opposed to what type of parser (group vs personal). Hence, my assumed breakdown in my post about those who don't care which type it is as long as they get some form of measuring tool to use.

With that being said, it's pretty clear that the forum population thus far have indeed agreed that they do want a parser in some capacity.

[LaylaTsarra]

Alternatively, one can interpret the data to say that very few people are actually opposed to a parser some capacity.

No the issue isn't parsers, it's group parsers. Spin it the way you like but the PRO GROUP PARSER crowd didn't win this one. I think it's been pretty clear in threads on this forum that those by far and large opposed to parsers don't want group ones and this poll at least CLEARLY SHOWS THAT.

[Ghishlain]

No the issue isn't parsers, it's group parsers. Spin it the way you like but the PRO GROUP PARSER crowd didn't win this one. I think it's been pretty clear in threads on this forum that those by far and large opposed to parsers don't want group ones and this poll at least CLEARLY SHOWS THAT.

Yes, there are semantics involved but the point you're replying to is the fact that I'm surprised that despite the amount of negativity there is towards parsers, there isn't that much opposition to actually including one (of any make *key context here*) which was the point of my comment when I made that post.

There is a much smaller gap between those who want a personal parser versus a group parser which pointed out rightfully, but I wasn't aiming towards that discussion with my comment.

Also, I don't know about you, but but group parser is still ahead of the combine "No" and "Yes, Personal Parser" vote by 1.2%. It's a slim margin but in a Democracy that's still getting the confidence of the people who you are polling via majority.

EDIT - You also don't know how many people in the voting are actually voting for both because they don't care about which tool it is as long as they get the tool. This would lower the amount of people who are "opposed" to having a group parser by an unspecified amount since they just want to use a tool in general (in contrast, it would also lower the amount of support of those who only want a group parser as well)

[LegitChamp]

It should be noted that the forums are a pretty poor random sampling of FF14 players. I would expect the forum population to have a much higher proportion of hardcore/elite players vs casual players compared to the actual population distribution in game(this is based of no known statistics, just my experience with MMORPGs). I would assume the elite players to be more inclined towards allowing an official parser which likely has a lot to do with the numbers we see here.

It should also be noted that many of the hardcore/elite players want a parser not because they want to know their DPS (lets be honest, they are likely already using 3rd party software) but because they want to hold other people accountable for a lack of DPS. Nothing really wrong with that except this is likely going to be directed at dps they meet in PuGs (theoretically they don't have to worry about their FC or friends reporting them for using 3rd party software). I have no issue with people getting reprimanded for sleep walking through a zone. But I don't like the idea of some inexperienced casual trying to finish his daily leveling roulette getting abused (or just randomly kicked) because he can't keep up with some ilvl synced hardcore in 230 gear.

[Rawrz]

I'm really kicking myself in the face for the wording. But the forum mods, can see the true data, if they used a difference calculator between the forum names, if they feel intrigued by the poll.

[Bloodb]

You can watch what abilities people are using. You can see right next to their character portrait in the party frame if they have up key buffs like heavy thrust, straight shot, maim, etc.

If someone is going through a leveling roulette by simply only using auto-attack you should be able to tell without a damage meter




For example I tanked an Amdapor recently and watched the dragoon only use 3 skills the whole dungeon, true, vorpal, full thrust.. the 1, 2 ,3 basic combo. Even though I asked him/her to use full thrust for the buff it never happened. I just assumed the dragoon wasn't paying attention to chat or watching tv or something also.

[Seraphix2407]

You can watch what abilities people are using. You can see right next to their character portrait in the party frame if they have up key buffs like heavy thrust, straight shot, maim, etc.

If someone is going through a leveling roulette by simply only using auto-attack you should be able to tell without a damage meter

If you meet a player and trying to tell him he has to get better, lets say in a good mannered way and he tells you to fuck off, is that okay?

[Orbiaus]

I can't use a parser since im on ps4 but I know a few that give me numbers. It really improved my dps knowing what numbers I was pulling out. I think a personal parser is a good compromise at least.