Would you like an in-game parser?

[Colt47]

The reason the parser is even a problem is because of design choices aped from games that encourage the use of it. Reality is that FFXIV has no real decision structure to anything when it comes to content, even savage. They pushed the entire design into simply being an arms race to kill the boss the fastest, which encourages specifically rotation optimization on damage over any other role or function such as healing, evading, doing side objectives, etc. The only times where they can even manage something besides a dps race is with weird mini-game segments like High Concept and Levin Strike, where the boss can't be targeted by anyone.

[Shurrikhan]

The reason the parser is even a problem is because of design choices aped from games that encourage the use of it. Reality is that FFXIV has no real decision structure to anything when it comes to content, even savage. They pushed the entire design into simply being an arms race to kill the boss the fastest, which encourages specifically rotation optimization on damage over any other role or function such as healing, evading, doing side objectives, etc.

You realize that the reward for optimizing healing, evading, mitigating, etc.... is damage?

There is only one objective in XIV, not because of some elitist mindset, but because every fight in this game is a matter of reducing a unit's HP to 0. We have no heal-fights. We have no defense-fights. We have no courier fights. We literally only have kill-it-dead. If you want something else to feel like the reward for optimization, you'll need a fight for which the clear ultimately depends on something other than damage.

Even our current fight design supports "decision structures" whereby sacrificing short-term damage for additional mitigation may be a long-term dps increase. But every reward will be capped except for that of damage, since only damage clears fight.

[SieyaM]

I can see this being abused pretty easily. If for instance your just running your regular expert roulette and the party sees that you are falling a little short of what top tier savage raiders are doing for DPS, then it could be decided that they want to remove you from the party even though you are still perfectly capable of clearing the roulette. This could also become pretty common place, since people tend to want to hold themselves as better than or as part of an elite group, and removing members from a party that they feel are not performing to their standards, no matter how viable it is in the content they are running, is one way of making them feel that way.

[TaleraRistain]

I can see this being abused pretty easily. If for instance your just running your regular expert roulette and the party sees that you are falling a little short of what top tier savage raiders are doing for DPS, then it could be decided that they want to remove you from the party even though you are still perfectly capable of clearing the roulette. This could also become pretty common place, since people tend to want to hold themselves as better than or as part of an elite group, and removing members from a party that they feel are not performing to their standards, no matter how viable it is in the content they are running, is one way of making them feel that way.

The main character of Twitter recently was someone who went and looked up the logs of people they were in expert roulette with and talked trash about them in party chat. They got rightfully roasted by the majority but there were a fair number in the XIV community who didn't see anything wrong with that mentality. Problem is, where can anyone let their hair down in that environment? A raider needs to worry about those numbers in harder content. But if they always have to keep their raid game face on, where do they and anyone else get a chance to relax and maybe derp here and there and be human? It should be in content where those numbers aren't as important but a official parser would bring an end to that because it would be SE endorsing that mentality throughout their game. I've gotten the impression from the topic when it comes up that that's the last thing they want to do. They know the tools are used for the harder content. They won't bust anyone over using them for improvement. But they don't want that to be what the game becomes about. Because there is some content where fun matters more.

[Saraide]

I can see this being abused pretty easily. If for instance your just running your regular expert roulette and the party sees that you are falling a little short of what top tier savage raiders are doing for DPS, then it could be decided that they want to remove you from the party even though you are still perfectly capable of clearing the roulette. This could also become pretty common place, since people tend to want to hold themselves as better than or as part of an elite group, and removing members from a party that they feel are not performing to their standards, no matter how viable it is in the content they are running, is one way of making them feel that way.

Please think this through. You have one of two situations:

Toxic elitist announces in chat they want to kick another person from duty finder because they do low dps. This will very quickly land them in GM jail.

Toxic elitist attempts to kick silently which is already possible in its entirety. Nothing is going to change to the current situation then.

[Hyperia]

Yoshi said no to parsers in every language the game is published in both oral and written form.

I bet he would rather shut down the game than offer parsers. This is a hill he would die on.

[Shurrikhan]

Yoshi said no to parsers in every language the game is published in both oral and written form.

I bet he would rather shut down the game than offer parsers. This is a hill he would die on.

He did the same thing regarding the ability to have glamours in PvP, among a dozen other things.

Tfw parsers are simply #17 in the list of the things he said could not ever and would not ever happen because he finally had the misfortune of informing himself.

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To be clear:

I don't think there's much benefit to an all-players-shown official version of ACT. ACT is rudimentary at best, with a decent chance of lacking so much context as to be misleading or at least needing several samples to get reliable information out of it where one would otherwise be enough if using a better metric (say, relative potency, instead of raw, crit/dhit-adjusted damage).

But an actually polished design and its accordant surroundings, deliberately and pretty comprehensively built to be a learning tool? That would absolutely be a boon for the game.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Let's have it. It is a good tool to see how well you are playing your class. If you are worried about looking bad then either learn your job better or get some thicker skin. People get hurt over stupid crap anyways

[VelKallor]

Tfw parsers are simply #17 in the list of the things he said could not ever and would not ever happen because he finally had the misfortune of informing himself.

Seeing the number of times we have seen trolls try to comb through peoples logs as a means to humiliate them, Id say YoshiPs stance is the correct one.

[Semirhage]

Seeing the number of times we have seen trolls try to comb through peoples logs as a means to humiliate them, Id say YoshiPs stance is the correct one.

So instead we should have people confidently asserting things they know nothing about, and when we bring actual receipts that prove that's not true, it becomes about "mean harassment" instead of...being wrong about things.

Toxic casuals want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to never improve, never learn anything, never do difficult content. and also be seen as luminaries who should definitely be listened to as authorities without question.

It's not about the numbers. It's about projecting insecurity. Plain and simple.