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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    No I would prefer not to have a parser. I enjoy this game all the more precisely BECAUSE it has less "metermaids" waving their epeens all over the screen than other games.
    I find it interesting that you are alluding to preferring the better community here, but then use terms like 'metermaids' and 'epeens'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I find it interesting that you are alluding to preferring the better community here, but then use terms like 'metermaids' and 'epeens'.
    I'm not certain what's "interesting" about my post. The community here is generally pleasant. I don't see chat spammed with various meters and/or people using them to shame or berate others. If you don't like my choice of words to describe the types of people I've encountered in other games with parsers then I apologize.
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    I'm not certain what's "interesting" about my post. The community here is generally pleasant. I don't see chat spammed with various meters and/or people using them to shame or berate others. If you don't like my choice of words to describe the types of people I've encountered in other games with parsers then I apologize.
    I guess I could have been more direct. I found your choice of words to describe an entire group of people to be rather prejudicial and rude, which is hypocritical given the meaning of your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Your first sentence makes very little sense. The SSS is not the closest thing in existence to a parser, so by that, I assume you mean it is the closest thing in the game. In which case, the closest thing in the game is already in the game is a bit redundant?

    That said, assuming you meant to say, "there is already a method to measure your damage in the game, and it is close enough to a parser that there is no need to add a parser." Then I'd say I disagree. I do not find SSS is sufficient, even remotely.
    It makes perfect sense. Is English not your first language? Let me break it down for you then. The devs have already said no to a parser. SSS however, was their compromise. That is all you are getting, because that is all they will ever be ok with. If you need "more" as you say you do, then use whatever 3rd party tool is available. It will more than likely never be accepted by SE, and is still a punishable offense if you harass someone with numbers.

    Was that clear enough for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I guess I could have been more direct. I found your choice of words to describe an entire group of people to be rather prejudicial and rude, which is hypocritical given the meaning of your post.
    I did not say every person who uses a parser is a "metermaid". I've used parsers myself in other games. Unfortunately far too many people take what should be a useful tool for personal betterment and use it as a weapon to berate others and/or prop up their own self-esteem. This is likely why SE decided against a parser in the first place. I'm not being hypocritical, prejudicial, or even (in my opinion) rude. Perhaps a bit cynical sure, but ultimately, at least from my own experiences in other games, I'm not wrong about ffxiv being better for not having metermaids waving their epeens all over chat and I see nothing wrong with that statement. Who you personally define as a "metermaid" is not for me to decide.
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    Last edited by Nicodemus_Mercy; 05-07-2016 at 07:24 AM.
    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    You need a post for: honestly could care less.

    I really don't care. A parser is good for people who want to maximize their potential but not having one hasn't stopped guilds from clearing 95% of the content in game.

    So really, I'm not in any camp. To me, I know I'm doing well. The comms given to me after a run as a dps are a pretty good indicator mostly.

    My two cents.
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    The closest thing to an official parser is already in game. It's called Stone, Sea, Sky. If you can't kill the dummy in the allotted time, your dps isn't good enough. Period. Don't bother trying to get in to the dungeon/trial/whatever till you get better gear, or iron out the kinks in your skill rotation. Just because you have the item level to open the door doesn't automatically mean you should be in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    The closest thing to an official parser is already in game. It's called Stone, Sea, Sky. If you can't kill the dummy in the allotted time, your dps isn't good enough. Period. Don't bother trying to get in to the dungeon/trial/whatever till you get better gear, or iron out the kinks in your skill rotation. Just because you have the item level to open the door doesn't automatically mean you should be in there.
    Your first sentence makes very little sense. The SSS is not the closest thing in existence to a parser, so by that, I assume you mean it is the closest thing in the game. In which case, the closest thing in the game is already in the game is a bit redundant?

    That said, assuming you meant to say, "there is already a method to measure your damage in the game, and it is close enough to a parser that there is no need to add a parser." Then I'd say I disagree. I do not find SSS is sufficient, even remotely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donaria View Post
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    This, 100% this.
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