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    Player
    Ekimmak's Avatar
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I've only ever met one person who used parsing software for toxic behaviour, but the experience was so unpleasant that I will fight every step of the way against an in-game parser.
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    I've only ever met one person who used parsing software for toxic behaviour, but the experience was so unpleasant that I will fight every step of the way against an in-game parser.
    Whilst I appreciate your views, that's a rather extremely thin skinned approach to take to allow one bad experience to sour an entire aspect of the game. I'll be amazed if you've not had an awful Rabanastre or Bardam's run yet, do you avoid those places as well?

    MMOs are as much about the community as they are the game and sadly sometimes you just have to take the rough with the smooth. There are bad eggs in all aspects of the game, being able to deal with them and brush them off is an important skill to learn imho!
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
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    Erm I had the same experience. Actually on Sunday I was in a raid group where this guy was telling people how much dps he was doing and how everyone was below him.

    You know me (and a few people know that I haven't got time for idiots and 12 year olds) I told him to piss off cause no one really gives a toss about it if YOU KEEP FAILING MECHANICS. He didn't like it and left.

    At the end of the day who fucking cares how much dps you are doing if can't follow mechanics the fight properly? I don't give a sodding toss how much DPS you doing if you cant do mechanics.

    And this is A clear example of moronic idiots trying to tell people off cause they not doing well. Who the hell do they think they are? And and their character says otherwise too..

    NOW you ask yourself, how do you expect people to learn if they don't know their numbers?

    That's why , either you have a in game parser or BAN everyone who is using a parser. And then we will all be in the same boat.
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    Last edited by Mature; 12-06-2017 at 06:19 PM.

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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Just make aggro bar the parser... not sure how well that would work but it's worth trying...
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Just make aggro bar the parser... not sure how well that would work but it's worth trying...
    What about skills that reduce agro? Wouldnt this only make it look like those players are doing less damage?
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    What about skills that reduce agro? Wouldnt this only make it look like those players are doing less damage?
    People use it that way right now, and that's exactly the problem. Someone who uses Diversion and Lucid Dreaming looks far lower than the guy riding within 2% of the tank, no matter which one is really doing more DPS.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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    Xant'cha Argoth
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Didn't YoshiP try to walk out last time he was asked about this? Seems like a pretty clear no to me. Beside SSS is already in game and can be use to improve your rotations/DPS by trying to clear them faster.
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by spf1200 View Post
    SSS is already in game and can be use to improve your rotations/DPS by trying to clear them faster.
    SSS does tell you if you can handle your basic rotation well enough in a dummy fight. It doesn't however do anything to help you adjusting your rotation to a specific fight, party buffs and so on. Changing your rotation to do better on a SSS dummy may even make you do worse in an actual fight. It also doesn't tell you how well you can keep your DPS rotation up while handling mechanics.
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Yes. I always feel blind while trying to play DPS in a group because I have no idea if I'm carrying my weight or not when it comes to actual DPS (for stuff like raises and utility it's much easier to tell). SSS is not a real replacement since it doesn't simulate mechanics, doesn't let you compare very well, doesn't do anything during levelling (when you should be learning), and you have to go out of your way to do it.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The stuff that reduce aggro(healers and DPS) would need to buff damage output and overall healing, and stuff that increases aggro way more(tanks) would need to increase DPS output, mitigation, and overall healing received... again not sure how this well this would work but it's an idea...
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