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  1. #111
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    Asmodai's Avatar
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    Nyx Dorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    As for the dev's stance: No they have not said mixed things. They do not want them. They turn a blind eye to them if you don't use them for harassment purposes. However, they will not ever officially endorse or code one in the game.
    Well you are wrong. They said they would never make an official one but once add-ons are allowed there will be one. You guys can keep complaining all you want, you cant stop it.

    PA: There’s been a lot a lot of discussion around add-ons, parsers, and whether they are allowed in game. Do you think there will be a time in the future where damage parsers and the like are sanctioned by Square Enix?

    YoshiP: First of all, about add-on plans, I am sorry of the delay because of our work on the PlayStation 4 version, it delayed the initial plans we had in mind. You’ll definitely be able to change the skin of the interface, and on the technical side of things, if a technical person creates an add-on you’ll probably be able to pull some data which is send from the server to the client’s side.

    Talking about tools to monitor DPS damage made by players: at the moment we have no plans to introduce an official tool because I do feel that if we introduce this tool, the players who are enjoying the DPS role but don’t necessarily have the player skill of other players I think it’s going to make them really uncomfortable in the game and in the party they might be blamed for the results. We don’t want encourage that. We’re not going to say we’re forbidding players to use that kind of tool if they make it, but I think that’s really up to the community and players for that decision. For example, with the World of Warcraft with DPS add-on, if players are not necessarily good enough, then you get that skeleton on top of their head, and I don’t think this is pleasant for players.
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  2. #112
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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Lala Yuki
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    A personal one would be great....I liked the comment but I'm just gonna post here so maybe this topic is seen <.<
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  3. #113
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    This, 100% this.
    Sadly I can only like his post once. Sigh.
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  4. #114
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    Nicodemus_Mercy's Avatar
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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    A personal one would be great....I liked the comment but I'm just gonna post here so maybe this topic is seen <.<
    I'd be leery but would not be opposed to a personal (self only) one with no "announce to chat" features. The last thing I need is for my chat to spammed with measuring contests.
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

  5. #115
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    Dorander's Avatar
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    Riley Fuller
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodai View Post
    snip.
    That's all well and good, but until they completely get rid of consoles as a device to play on (read ps3/ps4), you might as well kiss add-ons good bye.
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  6. #116
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Oh I fully read your post. "The closest thing to an official parser is already in game." means exactly what it means. Something that messures your dps output. Stop being obtuse. SSS is exactly that. Something you can do in game to find out if you have enough dps for a particular encounter.

    As for the dev's stance: No they have not said mixed things. They do not want them. They turn a blind eye to them if you don't use them for harassment purposes. However, they will not ever officially endorse or code one in the game.
    You seem unnecessarily angry. I am sorry that I have provoked you.

    SSS is not the closest thing to an official parser. I feel like that is a weird measure, as what does 'closest thing to an official parser' mean? I'd say the closest thing to an official parser would be an official parser. After that, it's fairly unclear what that would include. I'd argue that posting everyones numbers at the end of an encounter (like on PvP) is closer to a parser than SSS. I'd argue that having your numbers posted in SSS would be closer than current SSS. I'd argue that having the total hitpoints of the SSS dummy be displayed in-game would be cloesr to an official parser than current SSS.

    I have read mixed responses on the matter of add-on support and parsers from various interviews.
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  7. #117
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    At the risk of opening a lot of can of worms, I actually don't mind if harassment goes up if a parser gets released because of the fact it would mean many more reports of harassment and getting belligerent and disrespectful players out of the game. Just because a parser is in the game doesn't give anyone the right to belittle another player. The parser is there as a tool to assist players, not as a tool of harassment. Having an official parser doesn't suddenly making harassment via parser legal as well.

    I'm okay if an initial influx of harassment occurs with parsing is cut at its root due to a large amount of reports followed with subsequent bannings.
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  8. #118
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    Seraphix2407's Avatar
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    There's my honest reply.
    And I'm glad you are honest about it. My bad giving myself ideas how you are as a player, but don't get me wrong when I say this, but ''usually'' when people wrote down what you did, they usually give a rats ass about other players by still playing on a lower level without even trying. Now about the parser, I wish there was one on ps4/pc official, maybe a closed one so you can see your own dps and improve, that's what most people do and it helps alot. I made a few people start and it helps them alot. However what if some people don't wanna try get better? The problem will remain with or without parsers, the only good thing making one official is where people who are on consoles have a chance to use it, instead of asking a pc player all the time? Or simply because many are afraid using a parser and then they really wanna use one thats avaible?

    As for people using it for the opposite purpose, talking people down, I do agree there, I've seen it happen and it still happens. I mentioned this as well and that's a big problem. I also stated there are peopel who are more than willing to get better but there are also people who simply tells you to ''fuck off'' because it's how they play and it suits them. Yes they have the right to play however they want, but if they are playing in groups, that sort of attitude doesn't help at all, and I've seen that much as those prics who call out bad dps looking at their parser, hell might even seen those bad people having a shit fit more than those prics calling out peoples numbers just to be an ass.

    And my bad taking decision on what type of player you are or not.

    Edit: Since you mentioned people feeling bad or not, yes I've met them and I also reached my hand out and helped them on rotation or ask people who know the class better than me. Most of the time people are willing to listen and care to try, which puts a smile on my face, but then I honestly have recived more people saying they don't need help and it fits the way they play. People wonder why they never get clears or simply no one wants to deal with them. Is that my responsible or other players to teach those players to get better? Not really, but can we help them out if they are more than willing to? yes of course, but then you have the issue of those who aren't, so even with a parser in game you will still have those people but there is a great and I know for sure there are alot of people who wants to have a parser to look at. I might be wrong, but most people I talked to really wants and those are ps4 players and pc players as well.
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  9. #119
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    Lucienne Beauvilliers
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    Faerie
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    DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS
    DPS DPS DPS DPS How's my parse? DPS DPS DPS DPS
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  10. #120
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    Riley Fuller
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    snip.
    There will never be official numbers posted. EVER. SSS tells you if you are doing enough dps to complete an encounter before enrage mechanics happen. Parsers - tell you what your dps is. You know what DPS stands for right? Damage Per Second? All they are doing is giving a numerical value to the exact same thing that SSS does.. just SSS doesn't show numbers. It just says "pass" or "fail." In the end, that's all you need.
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