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  1. #61
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Well in Adventica's defence i also pull hate buuut it may be the cause of bad tanks, not sure.
    My opener is really hard on tanks though, lol
    And yes Quelling Strikes> use it

    edit: also Bard aoe is not "useless" like some perceive, those that say so are just not very good.
    Aoe buff is not what Bard needs.
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    Last edited by Maero; 05-13-2016 at 09:27 PM.

  2. #62
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    [QUOTE=Yuni_Queen;3695319]
    I know very experienced DRKs, that use plunge rather than unmend to pull stuff, and indeed, i woudn't say, that experience gives playing-class-skills.



    i tend to pop unmend and immediaely plunge before it even hits, tbh is this acceptable?
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  3. #63
    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    you forgot [/QUOTE]. Just cosmetic things.

    If you want to squeeze as much dps as you can out of that DRK, you would like to wait for slashing debuff and/or Trick Attack and/or MCH's debuff.
    Thou using unmend > plunge is natural and absolutely fine.
    Until Boss first attack is Cone AoE to the MT, then it's not advised to use plunge becuase of that 0.8 delay after usage.
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  4. #64
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    They should just pull a lame and make Death Blossom do 150 Potency and just make it a Ring of Thorns without the need for HT. And I doubt any DRG worth their lance uses ring of thorns when Doom Spike is bettah.
    150 pot would be quite an insane buff and definitely better than DRG. IF DRGs could use an uncomboed RoT for 150 pot they would use it over Doomspike because its far cheaper (120TP for 150 pot vs 160 for 160).

    If you keep in mind the 5% bigger dps boost from poisons, the 15% higher attack speed plus the addional 30-45 potency ticks from Ninjutsu, you cant really buff deathblossom higher than 120 pot. Of course its not out of the question that they reduce the tp costs of DRG AOE.
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  5. #65
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    150 pot would be quite an insane buff and definitely better than DRG. IF DRGs could use an uncomboed RoT for 150 pot they would use it over Doomspike because its far cheaper (120TP for 150 pot vs 160 for 160).

    If you keep in mind the 5% bigger dps boost from poisons, the 15% higher attack speed plus the addional 30-45 potency ticks from Ninjutsu, you cant really buff deathblossom higher than 120 pot. Of course its not out of the question that they reduce the tp costs of DRG AOE.
    Ninja AoE is ass though. If anything at least make Mug steal shit. Over the year I've played it's only happened twice.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Ninja AoE is ass though. If anything at least make Mug steal shit. Over the year I've played it's only happened twice.
    Its not nearly as bad as people claim it to be, unless you are saying DRG aoe is bad too (which its not). You cant just buff it by almost 50% and think that thats balanced.
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  7. #67
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    Its not nearly as bad as people claim it to be, unless you are saying DRG aoe is bad too (which its not). You cant just buff it by almost 50% and think that thats balanced.
    As far as AoE is concerned Doom Spike will always be better then HT+RoT. Especially if you know the basics of aiming attacks. As far as Ninja is concerned unless it's a huge pull if you have 3 or less it's far better to double Katon over Katon > Crit City Doton > Death Blossom which 4 or more you should do.

    Not nearly is bad is still bad.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    As far as AoE is concerned Doom Spike will always be better then HT+RoT.
    It is because RoT needs to be comboed is where i am getting at. If it wouldnt need to be comboed everyone would go for RoT because its only 120 TP. So you cant really say that 150 pot deathblossom would be worse than DRG aoe because doomspike is better than RoT.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Bard really should have had a Ley Lines-type system instead of importing a limitation directly from Machinist with none of the interesting mechanics to work around said limitations. It's actually really disgusting how well designed Gauss Barrel is for Machinist, and how poorly designed Minuet was for Bards in comparison. I really can't call it anything other than a poorly thought out copy-paste job in the name of balance.
    I think they should have given the bard more songs. How about the healing song your teacher has in the level 50 quest? How about also a song that boosts physical DPS (like the MCH). There could be other songs too. I like songs...that's why Bard is fun. Their weird/niche things nobody else can do to help out. It's also why I liked Shaman and their Totems in WoW...bloodlust and random little buffs.... More songs please.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Yeah getting tired of the NPC only shit.

    Thamaturges and Conjurers have access to Breakga and Tornado.

    Salt.
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